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What is Evangelism?

 
 
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jan, 2021 06:17 am
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Fri 29 Jan, 2021 09:27 pm
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 03:33 am
@TheCobbler,
My view is that in today’s world we have been brainwashed into thinking that good is bad and bad is good therefore there are no rules/morals...there is no God....anything goes.However if there is such a thing as good and bad then the opposite is truth.Does our logic tell us that bad shouldn’t be accountable because if there is good and bad then God made us the way he made us and we have no SELF control and so we can’t be held responsible for all the bad we may have done? Is this even TRUE or are we just making excuses for ourselves?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 04:25 am
@Jasper10,
If someone needs God in order to be good and civil then are they really good?

Blessed are those who are good without needing God as a reason.

If God is a crutch and without that crutch someone is bad then God is the sign of an innate ailment.

If good is a crutch then the crutch is good not the person.

Morality is a construct that exists and is required with or without a crutch.

The ideal that we are not moral in ourselves facilitates the ideal that we need to be controlled by others. This control by others is subject to the morality of others.

Babies are born with their eyes shut but we are still nearly all born with eyes...
Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 05:11 am
@TheCobbler,
It depends upon what standards one is comparing oneself with as to whether one considers oneself good or not.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 06:38 am
@Jasper10,
Are you referring to the standards of the Bible?

Are the Bible's standards God's standards?

Those who wish to control others sure have used them to hate and that in itself is perhaps the very definition of evil...

Jasper10
 
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Reply Sat 30 Jan, 2021 06:53 am
@TheCobbler,
The sole purpose of the Bible’s standards is to prove to every single individual throughout history that they can’t keep them perfectly.......nothing more and nothing less.Therefore the bible says that there is no one perfect and never has been...no NOT one.As God is perfection and he can’t let imperfection into his presence then man has a bit of a problem.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2021 01:11 am
@Jasper10,
Apparently God is not perfect either.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Mon 1 Feb, 2021 02:35 am
@TheCobbler,
Why do you say that?
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2021 04:17 am
@Jasper10,
What is attributed as "God's word" is so contradictory God must be bipolar with Alzheimer's disease.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2021 05:22 am
@TheCobbler,
Well one does need to have a balanced mindset to get to grips with the 2 off internal reasonings. If one has one sided logic/reasonings then it's difficult to understand biblical wordings. Remember,its a FACT that no one can definitively prove whether God exists or not so keep your reasonings balanced.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2021 06:03 am
@Jasper10,
Remember also that you are not these internal reasonings you just HAVE internal reasonings.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Tue 2 Feb, 2021 06:27 am
@Jasper10,
It's interesting to note also that Buddhism would argue that you are these 2 off internal reasonings therefore SELF does not exist.Buddhism has absolutely no definitive PROOF of this.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Feb, 2021 08:18 am
@Jasper10,
Yes, no one can prove if God exists but there is plenty of evidence to dispute a huge portion of the scriptures as being barbaric, homophobic, misogynistic, immoral and contrary to a wealth of proven science.
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TheCobbler
 
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Reply Mon 8 Feb, 2021 08:19 am
@Jasper10,
Well, you can believe you don't exist if you like but it is not very wise.
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itsmejerry04
 
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Reply Tue 9 Feb, 2021 10:48 pm
@TheCobbler,
Evangelism is to preach the word of God.
TheCobbler
 
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Reply Wed 17 Feb, 2021 06:15 pm
@itsmejerry04,
What? This word?
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2021 06:48 am
@TheCobbler,
You think that is nonsense? Do you wish not to know that men will and have done this (and far worse) for a piece of ass?
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bocianek
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2021 07:01 am
Which does not address any of the points issued. The chroniclers of Jesus, the canonical ones at least, clearly manipulated events to fit in with earlier prophecies. It's all second/third hand information anyway, not only is there deliberate misinformation but there's also an element of Chinese Whispers and exaggeration. We don't really know what Jesus said, if he even existed.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 18 Feb, 2021 07:08 am
@bocianek,
God only knows what 'points' you are talking about, but historians generally agree that 'Jesus' existed. They differ on the 'Only begotten Son of God' part.
 

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