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the Ultras Prague

 
 
ryunin
 
Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 05:53 am
once again I had to translate something - any mistakes?


Everything English was sacred to them, called themselves the Ultras Prague and had never been to England

I am not sure if it is possible to leave out the subject THEY called themselves the...

Everything English is great! Does it sound natural?
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Wy
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jan, 2005 09:18 pm
Hi Ryunin,
No, I don't think it's possible to leave the "they" out.

I'd use a semicolon to separate the sentence. I think more separation than a comma is needed. I'm not sure about the last half -- does "Ultras Prague" connote some Anglophile leanings?

It would make more sense to me if it read, "Everything English was sacred to them; they called themselves the "British Boys" though they had never even been to England."
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ryunin
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 03:16 am
Thank you.

The Ultras Prague is probably a skinhead group or rock band, so it is not possible to change the name.

I don t undersatand about leaving the subject now.

How about sentence: He loved to play soccer, had three children, traveled a lot, married an insomniac.

Sometimes it is not necessary to use the subject? But in what cases?
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ryunin
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 03:28 am
look what I found in native speakers sources:

We talked to him, played his favorite music, told funny childhood
stories, and kept him as comfortable as we could........
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 04:10 am
It's a little confusing, ryunin because your sentence has "Everything English" as its subject in the first phrase. But then the subject obviously changes after the comma, and the "they" is understood. But that is not parallel structure. I think Wy is correct: it would make better sense if you changed the comma (,) to a semicolon (Wink and inserted the pronoun "they" to indicate change of subject.

In the example you cite in your last post the subject does not change -- it is "We" throughout, followed by a series of phrases with varying predicates. That makes the sentence quite correct.
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ryunin
 
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Reply Wed 19 Jan, 2005 04:53 am
Merry Andrew, unfortunately I figured out what you said just after posting my comment. You are right, the subject changed so it had to be mentioned.
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