Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2017 08:03 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:
I never said I didn't like the system.

The AA system is based on the twelve steps. Do you like the twelve steps?
Krumple
 
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Reply Wed 20 Dec, 2017 08:56 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:

Quote:
I never said I didn't like the system.

The AA system is based on the twelve steps. Do you like the twelve steps?


I don't dislike them. The only thing I mentioned about the steps is that I will never get past the first step because I don't agree with it. This is what sparked this whole thing. So it's not about liking or not liking the steps. All it comes down to is its impossible for me to accept the first step. I see it completely different.

The thing is, it was my point to suggest it is you who make the choice for sobriety, not your higher power. Nothing else decides for you, so in effect you are not powerless. If you were actually powerless you would never make the choice for sobriety.
TheCobbler
 
  3  
Reply Wed 27 Dec, 2017 12:11 pm
@Krumple,
It is one thing to desire sobriety and it is a completely different thing to maintain sobriety, somewhere between the two lies the powerlessness.

If quitting was as easy as simply saying it, it would not be called an addiction.

The point is some people have tried and failed many times and when the disease progresses it kills people.

You seem oblivious and all you want to do it stroke yourself and say I did it myself. Well good for you, you have not been powerless, but your ego also indicates you have also not been humble.

Some might call that delusional and ignorant.

Ignorant because, if quitting was as easy as, saying it, people would not be dying like flies right now and there would not be world wide drug epidemic.

So somewhere between your ego and ignorance is something missing.

That thing missing is humility and what stands in its place is a haughty spirit and pride.

Maybe one day I, me and my may require to become we.

Then you will know what powerlessness is, and humility.
ehBeth
 
  3  
Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2017 12:14 pm
@TheCobbler,
How are things going?
Real Music
 
  4  
Reply Sun 31 Dec, 2017 02:01 pm
@Krumple,
If AA is helping the OP and no one is being hurt, what is gained by you demeaning the OP or demeaning AA? AA exist to help people and the OP is seeking their help. If you never needed the assistance of AA that's good for you. Everyone isn't you. AA has help many people and that is a wonderful thing. Why you would demean an organization who is helping people really baffles me. Why you would demean a person who is seeking help really baffles me. Has either the OP or AA ever harm you in any way to cause you to demean them?
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TheCobbler
 
  3  
Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2018 06:51 am
@ehBeth,
I went to an AA meeting last night rather than a party. Smile

It was actually much better than a party.

I went to bed around 10:30pm

And I am greeting the New Year today, sober and healthy.

No hangover and a clear thinking mind.

Soon to "celebrate" my third month in AA.

Sobriety as a "group effort" is the only thing that I was able to respond to and it is working.

I am so grateful to hear the stories of the veterans and the new people, young and old.

This is all new to me and I am usually the person in the meeting with the least amount of sobriety, but over time that will change.

I am still learning the program and it is a good program and has had little in way of pitfalls and being, there is little or no judgment I can see myself adhering to the program and many years down the road still sober.

But it is still one day at a time.

Thanks for asking EhBeth. Smile

ehBeth
 
  3  
Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2018 11:18 am
@TheCobbler,
Sounds like a good evening and a great way to wake up.

Here is my New Year's Eve resolution to share with everyone - more hugs and more picnics.

May 2018 be peaceful and filled with joy.
Sturgis
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Jan, 2018 02:40 pm
@TheCobbler,
Glad things are continuing well for you, Cobbler.
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TheCobbler
 
  3  
Reply Tue 2 Jan, 2018 08:22 am
@ehBeth,
I love the picnics idea, I think I would like that too for the new year.

My resolution is staying sober and to read more books, I have a lot of nice ones and when my eyesight suddenly got bad I stopped reading. I have glasses but I also have trouble sitting still. I will find a nice place where I can sit comfortable (Starbucks, the library, Historical Society...) and try and pick up reading again. I still have trouble sitting still but if I only read a little every day maybe I can benefit from it in my life again.

Smile

Happy New Year A2kers!!!
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TheCobbler
 
  4  
Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2018 09:43 pm
Last Sunday I got a g0ld chip at AA for two months of one day at a time. Smile

I turned 55 today, glad I am sober for this.
ehBeth
 
  3  
Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2018 09:44 pm
@TheCobbler,
Happy Birthday and Congratulations!

TheCobbler
 
  2  
Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2018 09:49 pm
@ehBeth,
Thanks ehBeth on both counts! Smile
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Reply Sat 3 Feb, 2018 10:54 pm
@TheCobbler,
Happy Birthday Cobbler, my birthday is 5 February and I turn (bleeped). It's nice to know others who share the same zodiac sign, Congratulations.
Sturgis
 
  3  
Reply Sun 4 Feb, 2018 04:20 pm
@TheCobbler,
Happy birthday and good on you for the 2 month chip! You're doing it.
0 Replies
 
TheCobbler
 
  2  
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2018 06:46 am
Still on the wagon, the last meeting was great one last Sunday night.

Days go by slower lately but they are good days, better days and longer days...
Glennn
 
  1  
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2018 08:08 am
@TheCobbler,
Quote:
Still on the wagon

Maintain that wagon. Tie yourself to it with your will.
0 Replies
 
Glennn
 
  1  
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2018 08:10 am
@glitterbag,
I knew you were at least bleep years old. I KNEW it!
ehBeth
 
  1  
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2018 09:43 am
@glitterbag,
hey glitterbag - happy birthday yesterday!
glitterbag
 
  2  
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2018 07:04 pm
@ehBeth,
thank you ehbeth 🍷☘️
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Reply Tue 6 Feb, 2018 07:08 pm
@Glennn,
Glennn wrote:

I knew you were at least bleep years old. I KNEW it!


Why you sonofa..... oops, You bleeping ol , wait (I forgot what I was going to say
 

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