What didn't you say? You said both.
CoastalRat wrote:Where have I said that anyone in jail DESERVES to suffer another crime? I have not.
CoastalRat wrote:This whole discussion has come about because I made an off-hand comment about (paraphrasing here) not feeling sorry for the dude that got humiliated by our soldiers while being in Abu Ghraib due to stealing a car. I stand by that remark. I feel no sympathy for him.
I'll make this simpler. Did he deserve to get "humiliated" (tortured) by our soldiers due to stealing a car?
If your answer is yes, then that's exactly what you've been denying saying thus far. (See first quote.)
If the answer is no, why don't you have any sympathy for him?
..and you made a point crystal here:
Let's bring it closer to home.
Your daughter gets locked up in a lawless Filipino prison for a triviality...let's say being drunk and disroderly-- a legitimate punishment by their cultural and legal standards, we'll say. While in prison, she is repeatedly raped (and why not repeatedly...you get it done once, may as well keep the train going. Right?) and beaten.
Now, anyone will agree that perhaps what she experienced was excessive and uncalled for, but she was imprisoned due to her actions and must then suffer the consequences.
Would a little sympathy be in order from your fellow Americans?
Well, CR, lucky for you I'm a humanitarian type. I'd poor you a glass if I could.
Hah! Great stuff.
The new code word for 'you're going to regret bringing X topic up with X poster' is Bend Over!
FreeDuck wrote:Well, CR, lucky for you I'm a humanitarian type. I'd poor you a glass if I could.
Thanks, but I am beginning to think it may take a whole bottle. So just ship me one to Charleston. I'll be looking for it.
I wouln't have a problem with the worst of the worst in prison here in the US were allowed to be tortured. If your in for being a pediphile or a murderer then let the torture happen, maybe it would work a little better then this candy ass approach we have to our current prison system.
I also think in the cases of people running from the police, that they should be allowed to be beat for a measured time in accordance with the amount of time that they were running from the police putting peoples in danger. If you run for 20 minutes then you should receive a 5 minute beating. I would love to see a 1 to 5 ratio in cases such as that. Less people would run from the police.
As for the people who are in prison in Iraq I'm sure they are not as innocent as they seemto be. Most of them that have been put there are not first time offenders and I'm sure have done other things that they haven't been caught for. I do beleive in Karma!