IRAQ: no WMD's - nothing, zero, nada, zip, f#ck-all

Gunga, there is no evidence to support your continued claim of Saddam being behind the Anthrax attacks. There is plenty of conjecture and thery, but no evidence.

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In Nam there was no cause for war.

Yes, there was. It was called "Communism."

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In Nam there was no popular government on our side; in Iraq one is being created and all but a tiny handful of diehard baathists want in on it.

Niether was there a popular government on our side in Iraq until we invaded. Do you ever proofread what you write?

And who were the South Vietnamese?

Insurgency:

1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent

http://tokyo.usembassy.gov/e/p/tp-20040927-38.html

"There is much more work to be done. We've already spent more than a billion dollars on urgent reconstruction projects in areas threatened by the insurgency."

"As we discussed, the plan focuses on building democracy, defeating the insurgency, and improving the quality of life for the ordinary Iraqis."

"The government have accelerated the development of Iraqi special forces and established a counter-terrorist strike force to address the specific problems caused by the insurgency."

"The government have accelerated the development of Iraqi special forces and established a counter-terrorist strike force to address the specific problems caused by the insurgency."

Shit4brains, huh? Have you looked in a mirror lately, Gunga?

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McGentrix wrote:

Gunga, there is no evidence to support your continued claim of Saddam being behind the Anthrax attacks. There is plenty of conjecture and thery, but no evidence.

I agree with you on most things. Nonetheless I view the evidence for Hussein being behind the anthrax attacks as about 100 percent.

I've actually seen claims on the web that somebody with a different motive tried to frame the 9-11 hijackers by setting the anthrax thing off in their neighborhoods. Again, I might could picture that if the anthrax attacks had followed 9-11 by three months minimum, but nobody would have had the time to prepare something like that in the amount of space there actually was.

The fact that anybody would even entertain the notion of a frameup like that is an indication of how strongly the evidence implicates the 9-11 crew and Saddam Hussein.

One frameup claim:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/frameup.html

The ONE possibility of a frameup artist being able to put something like that together in the time he had would be for the US govt. to have been behind both 9-11 AND the anthrax attacks, but that is preposterous for any number of reasons.

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Gunga:

You, as most of the rest of the nation, have no friggin' clue what our government is up to. And with the most secretive administration on record, the fact that you trust these morons is telling unto itself.

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Dookiestix wrote:

Gunga:

You, as most of the rest of the nation, have no friggin' clue what our government is up to. And with the most secretive administration on record, the fact that you trust these morons is telling unto itself.

You think the govt was behind 9-11??

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I just found a child left behind....

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You think the govt was behind 9-11??

I think they let it happen in order to further their goals. There's a lot of evidence that whatever DID happen, it wasn't what people were TOLD what happened.

The funny thing is, even given the unbelievably large amount of historical data showing that this is the sort of thing which DOES happen when people get too much power, Americans still don't want to accept the possibility that their prez. would be involved in conspiracy. Amazing really.

Cycloptichorn

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

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You think the govt was behind 9-11??

I think they let it happen in order to further their goals.

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Cycloptichorn

Cue the tin foil hat picture ......

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Ticomaya wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
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You think the govt was behind 9-11??

I think they let it happen in order to further their goals.

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Cycloptichorn

Cue the tin foil hat picture ......

http://www.minionware.com/KAIA/alien-thumb.jpg

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Yeah, everyone who disagrees with the party line is wearing a tin foil hat. Obviously.

I think it's the rest of you wearing dunce hats.... why don't you go sit in the corner for a while and study some history? You may find that what I am talking about is actually a rather common occurance over the last couple hundred of years... not that I expect logic or data to have an effect on your belief structures...

Cycloptichorn

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Cue the Bush fascism.

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American Soldiers
- Fighting for Israel

FACTS:
Bush lied in his speech on March 17,2003 when he said, "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

After more than 10 months of occupation no WMD have been found even though Donald Rumsfeld said on March 30, 2003, "We know where they (WMD) are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad."

Iraq was said by Bush and his gang to have connections to Al Qaeda - that was a lie too.
It is wrong and un-American to take American military men and women away from their families and place them in harm's way to fight an enemy, not of America, but of Israel!

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C'mon, Rafick. Do you really believe that crap?

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FreeDuck wrote:

C'mon, Rafick. Do you really believe that crap?

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The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world's major sources of instability.

Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power - and duty - to bring a resolution.

Below are charts of eight little-known statistics.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

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Rafick wrote:

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world's major sources of instability.

I agree.

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Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

I agree. But what does that have to do with us going to Iraq? Do you think we invaded in order to keep Saddam from sending money to palestinian families? It doesn't quite add up.

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did you click on the link :

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

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Yes.

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Best link you've ever posted, Rafick. Keep it up.

Cycloptichorn

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Well done Israel - you are right on track

It must have been a lot of fun shooting an Arab who couldn't shoot back. Even better his death means that the Hamas leadership has passed to even more desperate militants.
That's what you wanted, wasn't it. Because now, with any luck, Hamas will extend its bombing targets to mainland USA.

That's what you expect, isn't it?

Then, once the Palestinians have attacked America you expect the Americans to invade the Palestinian territory and shoot 'em up big time. You want America to do your dirty work for you.

Like we said, you are right on track. You have taken out Sheikh Ahmed Yassin in his wheel chair. Gee, that must have been fun. Talk about a Turkey shoot!

Hamas has obliged and installed a new hard-line leader, which was just what you had bargained on.

Now all you have to do is sit back while Hamas attacks America as you hope they will.

Here's hoping the American government sees the real villains in the piece and fails to play along to your game plan.

Later and still on track
Well the new Hamas leader has already described the United States as the 'enemy of Islam' and has hinted at attacks on America.
The United States is sticking to the Israeli written script. It is the only major country not to have condemned the Israeli assasins.

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Rafick wrote:

American Soldiers
- Fighting for Israel

FACTS:
Bush lied in his speech on March 17,2003 when he said, "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

After more than 10 months of occupation no WMD have been found even though Donald Rumsfeld said on March 30, 2003, "We know where they (WMD) are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad."

Iraq was said by Bush and his gang to have connections to Al Qaeda - that was a lie too.
It is wrong and un-American to take American military men and women away from their families and place them in harm's way to fight an enemy, not of America, but of Israel!

It is known that Hussein had developed and possessed WMD, at one time was trying to develop more, had used them, and had lied about the to inspectors. Furthermore, Hussein had failed to provide convincing evidence of their destruction, which was puzzling since he clearly wanted sanctions lifted. The totality of our 12 year history of trying to get him to verifiably live up to the terms of his surrender in Gulf War 1 left a great deal of doubt that he wasn't merely hiding the weapons and either continuing to develop them, or else planning to resume development using hidden facilities as soon as the heat and spotlight were off. Because of the potential of weapons like this to be easily smuggled into a country such as the US and detonated from inside, and because of the potential of even one of certain WMD to wipe out a million people at one stroke, Bush's decision to invade was absolutely correct. It would have been foolish in the extreme not to be sure. No matter how the administration presented its case, this is the truth.

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