anti communism

This site will give you extensive information:

Communism

It might be okay in theory but it falls down badly in practice. It assumes that everyone has the same work ethic to work for the common goal. In reality it is not so. There are extreme hard workers and lazy asses like me.

There is nothing wrong with it in theory; just as there is nothing wrong with capitalism...in theory. And if people were more ant-like or uniform in their outlook, either one might suffice as the foundation of an ideal society. But the playing field is not level, and never will be; and what's sauce for the goose isn't necessarily sauce for the gander.

As humans are neither ant-like nor uniform in their outlook, it seems to me that any system built on the assumption that all people are or should be motivated by the same concerns -which is true of both communism and capitalism- will be woefully inadequate in practice, if not downright destructive.

How about as a political system it murdered more people than any other in the 20th century? No one bests the communists when it comes to mass murder.

Good source on numbers would be "Government by Death" by a professor out at the U of Hawaii. His website has the information as well.

I'm a college student (History Major) and I am very frustrated by the fact that the entire history department at my school is PRO-commie. In my Western Culture class we are reading the Communist Manifesto and documents from the Black Panthers. This Prof. is glorifying communism and it isn't (really) a part of western culture not to mention the fact that he is completely struggling to fit these topics properly into a "western culture" course. I am even further disenchanted by the fact that this is common practice on college campuses everywhere. History is hard to accurately study because it is open for so many interpretations but communism fell for a reason - it was destructive to civilization. I don't mind learning about it but I'm sick of colleges pushing a socialist agenda. We are taught that America is evil and everyone else is good. I'm sick of it!! Has anyone had a similar colleg experience? Or, can anyone think of a decent university that has more than just one way of thinking? Personally, I got a better education at community college!

It's a frustration, isn't it, shyone? Bear with it, recognize what they are doing, and get the degree. You can learn from anyone - almost.

As someone said years ago "The uses and abuses of the word socialism are legion" - and even Engels said similar.

I don't know a lot about how history is taught at US colleges/universities, but such would be here more a subject in the Political Science department than in history.

Shyone -- Communism isn't part of Western culture?? Then what culture is it a part of?

Communism is .... how do I put it ... a bit immature in its theory. In order for it to work everyone on the planet has to be good and pure and giving and kind and everything, which, unfortunately... NO. Humans are partly evil and that's what makes us Humans. So communism will not work. CANNOT work.

Communism is more of a Easten culture thing... Russia(Soviet Union in fact), China, Korea, I think.

Er, Communism is definitely a Western culture thing. Karl Marx was German, as I imagine you already know, and Engels was a British industrialist. It's roots ... Hegel, guild systems, Rousseau, certain branches of the Christian monastic systems, etc. ... are all also Western in nature. Russia, is part of Eastern Europe, which, unless you think of the West as being wholly Charlemagnian and don't include Eastern Christian Orthodoxy as part of the West with respect to the rest of the world, is also, of course, part of the West ... the eastern part of it.

I am not sure that one could fairly call Communism, being a late ideological system historically immature ... what, then, is Christianity? An example of juvinilia? Communism doesn't posit that people are naturally good ... indeed, it would regard that as immature, most Communists hold that people are neither naturally good nor naturally bad. The concept of being "naturally" anything is, in their view, rather outdated, "esssentialist" thinking.

My experience with leftist professors in college was rather negative. I found that there were a few conservative teachers who were a bit less intellectually dishonest and a few more Libertarians who were especially intellectually honest. Perhaps if you carefully look, you will be able to find some as well.

However, the notion that Communism is not necessary to a History of the 19th and 20th centuries in Europe, to Political Science or European Intellectual History is nonsense. Whatever you feel about the system, few have had more political consequences with respect to the history of the West. Of course, the notion that the United States is evil and the rest good, is similarly nonsense.

Yes, no doubt that it had an impact on the world as a whole, it was an Eastern thing. My point is that he is obscuring actual western culture in favor of communism and the like - and it is completely absurd because western culture never practiced it; we just fought it.

My point, Shyone, is that it is entirely a Western thing. Its main thinkers were Western and it was, as an ideology, exported to the rest of the world. We didn't just fight it, we invented it, exported it, and practiced it.

Russia is considered part of the West, so is Poland, Czechlosovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia, Austria, Eastern Germany, Bulgaria, Albania, and the rest of the Eastern bloc. (By East it was meant Eastern Europe, not the Far East).

But, also, there was the Paris Commune, the Spanish Republic (during the Spanish Civil War), the Communist Party was once a major party in American politics (with ~ 20% of the vote), has been a major party in French, West German, Swedish, and Italian, politics throughout the 20th century, etc. To consider it not properly part of Western History is to decide to ignore considerably large tracts of our history and to forget where it came from in the first place.

Hmm.

Earlier, you said



and




So you perhaps forgot all about Engels and Marx, where they were born, lived, worked, what they wrote and where there influence started?

I suggest that shyone should change her major. Her knowledge and understanding of history is sketchy, at best.

I'm sure, here, in Germany, the profs at any university had asked shyone after the first semester to rethink the choice of study.

I don't think it is fair to question Shyone's interests. Not knowing a hell of a lot about Communism does not mean one not ought to make a study of history, in which Communism only really plays a part in late Modernity. And, obviously, one takes History because one is interested in things one does not know, not just to reread what one already has.

Studying history doesn't only mean that you are taught about things you didn't know before.

Knowledge about academic/scientific work usually is also part of that.

Shyone claimed e.g. that communism "was an Eastern thing", she didn't question or discuss that.

Besides, I should think that such is taught at least basically in high schools.

Some of you are so extremely pretentious that you have missed my point.
Thanks

Would you reiterate your point, shyone.