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Universe- how can something come from nothing?

 
 
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 12:30 pm
@chai2,
this is a saver!
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OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 12:33 pm
So, at least we now agree nobody understands how 'something' can come out of 'nothing".

Ok, then we are progressing. Great!
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 02:35 pm
@OldGrumpy,
We can all go and get drunk now.
chai2
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 02:56 pm
@OldGrumpy,
OldGrumpy wrote:

So, at least we now agree nobody understands how 'something' can come out of 'nothing".




No one has ever indicated they knew, so I suppose we have all always been in agreement.

I'm not sure why you somehow think this is something anyone would argue.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 09:08 pm
The entire god squad narrative here is bullshit. Acknowledging that one does not know what came before the singularity does not mean that nothing came before the singularity. Those god dipshits are goofy, and dishonest.
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 09:13 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

We can all go and get drunk now.


I’m in!
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OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 11:34 pm
So I am glad we all agree now that the Big Bang is a lot of hogwash and nonsense then.


Good!
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 11:36 pm
@OldGrumpy,
No one has agreed on anything except heading out for a drink. Nice try though.
OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Thu 2 Aug, 2018 11:53 pm
@glitterbag,
well, it seemed we agreed that something can't come out of nothing. but that is what is claimed about the bigbang, hence the theory of the big bang is bogus, wrong, strange and at fault.

Let's face it, big bang is a hoax, there never was one.
chai2
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:01 am
@OldGrumpy,
where did anyone say something can’t come from nothing? The answer to your question is that We don’t know how that could happen, not that it doesn’t happen.


You are stating that if you don’t know how or why something happens, it’s untrue.

Well, you also don’t know why or how God does a lot of things, as his ways are mysterious, hence the idea there must be a God is hogwash.

Let’s face it. God is a hoax and there never was one.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:54 am
@OldGrumpy,
Oh geez grumpy guy, you’re wasting your time here. Did Franklin Graham shut down his zealot blog? Go see what Franklin is up to. I think it’s fair to say very few of the people here think this type of argument is an interesting way to spend time and they are flat not interested. You should be praying...that will make you feel better.
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OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 12:56 am
@chai2,
"where did anyone say something can’t come from nothing? "

Duh, the scientist themselves do.


"Well, you also don’t know why or how God does a lot of things, as his ways are mysterious, hence the idea there must be a God is hogwash.

Let’s face it. God is a hoax and there never was one."


Oh my, not again! Where do I introduce god here? nowhere!
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 01:07 am
Perhaps God created the Big Bang.
OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 01:10 am
@glitterbag,
I don't know, I didn't say that at all.

I am only saying that scientist say that 'something' came out of 'nothing" and I say that that is bullshit and can't happen. It is impossible
chai2
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 01:44 am
@OldGrumpy,
No, you didn't bring up god at all. I did.

So what?

Ok, so you think the BB is bullshit.

You think it didn't happen and is impossible.

Your belief has been noted.

Next case.

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chai2
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 01:47 am
@OldGrumpy,
OldGrumpy wrote:

I don't know, I didn't say that at all.




Right again. Glitter said maybe it was God that did it.

You have problems with determining who said or didn't say what.

As far as I'm aware, scientists don't say something came from nothing either. They say they cannot determine what was going on before the BB.

If you know any different, cite your sources.

Now you're just trolling, and no fun anymore.
OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 04:36 am
@chai2,
"As far as I'm aware, scientists don't say something came from nothing either"

O yes yes yes they do!

"“Hawking said: ‘Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist…’"

And another one:

"One theory is that the universe came from nothing. i.e. perhaps bubble-universes collided, as in a bubble bath, and gave birth to the universe. Or perhaps the big bang was created by a bubble-universe which split into two universes. The universe does seem to be compatible with nothing.

Michio Kaku"


And another one:

"The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.

Richard Dawkins"

And another one:

"A universe that came from nothing in the big bang will disappear into nothing at the big crunch. Its glorious few zillion years of existence not even a memory.

Paul Davies"

"This “quantum cosmology” provides a loophole for the universe to, so to speak, spring into existence from nothing, without violating any laws of physics.

Paul Davies"

"The universe can spontaneously create itself out of nothing

Stephen Hawking"



And on and on it goes..


Quit some jokers eh?!
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OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 04:42 am
@chai2,
"As far as I'm aware, scientists don't say something came from nothing either"

Well, the 'scientists' have even written books about something coming from nothing!

"A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing"

by the clown Lawrence Krauss.

https://www.amazon.com/Universe-Nothing-There-Something-Rather/dp/1451624468
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OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 04:46 am
Now look at that point exactly 2 meters ahead form you, keep focusing.

Maybe one day a new universe will start there! Just like that, there is nothing there, but one day that 'nothing' will explode into a huge Universe.

Just have patience, grasshopper, just have patience.



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OldGrumpy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2018 05:09 am
And I always have to laugh if 'they' bring up the Redshift as 'proof' for the big bang. That is no proof at all.
 

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