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More Internet Time=Less T.V. and Socializing Time

 
 
Noddy24
 
Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 10:37 am
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December 30, 2004
Internet Use Said to Cut Into TV Viewing and Socializing
By JOHN MARKOFF

AN FRANCISCO, Dec. 29 - The average Internet user in the United States spends three hours a day online, with much of that time devoted to work and more than half of it to communications, according to a survey conducted by a group of political scientists.

The survey found that use of the Internet has displaced television watching and a range of other activities. Internet users watch television for one hour and 42 minutes a day, compared with the national average of two hours, said Norman H. Nie, director of the Stanford Institute for the Quantitative Study of Society, a research group that has been exploring the social consequences of the Internet.

"People don't understand that time is hydraulic," he said, meaning that time spent on the Internet is time taken away from other activities.

A 2000 study by the researchers that reported increasing physical isolation among Internet users created a controversy and drew angry complaints from some users who insisted that time they spent online did not detract from their social relationships.

However, the researchers said they had now gathered further evidence showing that in addition to its impact on television viewing, Internet use has lowered the amount of time people spend socializing with friends and even sleeping.

According to the study, an hour of time spent using the Internet reduces face-to-face contact with friends, co-workers and family by 23.5 minutes, lowers the amount of time spent watching television by 10 minutes and shortens sleep by 8.5 minutes.

The researchers acknowledged that the study data did not answer questions about whether Internet use itself strengthened or weakened social relations with one's friends and family.

"It's a bit of a two-edged sword," Mr. Nie said. "You can't get a hug or a kiss or a smile over the Internet." Many people are still more inclined to use the telephone for contact with family, he said.

The latest study also found that online game playing has become a major part of Internet use.

Over all, 57 percent of Internet use was devoted to communications like e-mail, instant messaging and chat rooms, and 43 percent for other activities including Web browsing, shopping and game playing. Users reported that they spent 8.7 percent of their Internet time playing online games.

The study also found that although the Internet is widely employed for communications, users spend little of their online time in contact with family members.

Of the time devoted to communication, just a sixth was spent staying in touch with family members, significantly less than the time spent on work-related communications and contact with friends.

The study found that as much as 75 percent of the population in the United States now has access to the Internet either at home or work.

"It is remarkable that this expansion of use has happened in just a decade since the invention of the Web browser," Mr. Nie said. That rate of growth is almost as fast as the spread of the telephone, and is impressive because the computer is more complicated to use, he said.

The study, titled "What Do Americans Do on the Internet?" also found that junk e-mail and computer maintenance take up a significant amount of the time spent online each day.

Respondents reported spending 14 minutes daily dealing with computer problems. That would suggest that Internet users spend a total of 10 workdays each year dealing with such problems.

The study, the latest in an annual series, was based on a survey of 4,839 people between the ages of 18 and 64 who were randomly selected. Respondents were asked to create detailed diaries of how they spent their time during six randomly selected hours of the previous day.

Data collection was performed by Knowledge Networks, a survey research firm based in Menlo Park, Calif. The researchers plan to release the study on Monday on their Web site, www.stanford.edu/group/siqss.

Thirty-one percent of the survey sample reported using the Internet on the day before they were surveyed. Researchers classified this group as Internet users.

The researchers found that the amount of Internet use does not differ by gender. But women on average use e-mail, instant messaging and social networking more than men, while men spend more time browsing, reading discussion groups and participating in chat rooms.

Younger people in the sample tended to favor immediate forms of online communication, while older people used e-mail more frequently.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/30/technology/30internet.html?th=&pagewanted=print&position=

We've all heard of people who spend untold hours on the Internet, ignoring families and other loved ones.

What about the cases in which contacts on the Internet are not only more interesting and educational than T.V., but more interesting and educational that face=to-face social contacts?
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 10:47 am
I'm above average at something!
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 10:57 am
I think less TV watching --> more Internet can be good. With both, it depends on what it is of course. Like, not watching er um National Geographic in favor of watching the Paris Hilton video probably isn't a gain.

Less socializing is probably never good, but can't you socialize at all on the internet?

Semantics, I guess.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 11:01 am
I spend a bit of time on the Internet, but it is not all on A2K. I read a lot of newspapers online. I do most of my web surfing in the early morning, so I am not stinting on my socializing. My house could use a little more cleaning, though! Laughing
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 11:13 am
I don't watch TV at all, and I delegate housework.
Heck I also make time to surf the net (actually we MAC users
go on Safari Wink ) during working hours.

Sozializing times always have first priority though.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 11:20 am
littlek--

You have a lot of Above Average statistics.

sozobe--

I think there are a lot of full-time mothers and retired people and workers-at-home who use the Internet for adult conversation about specialized topics that interest them.

In an article in the January, 2005, issue of Discover Steven Johnson writing about the possiblities of blogs quotes tech commentator David Weinberger, "On the Web, everyone will be famous to 15 people."

Maybe these people are Conspiracy Experts or interested in archeology in the tundra or personally dedicated to promoting virginity in public high schools....the point is that on the web you can find 15 people who share at least one of your interests.

http://www.discover.com/issues/jan-05/departments/emerging-technology/

Phoenix--

When I see research that housework improves my figure or delays senility or increases my chances of winning the lottery, I might do more housework--or I might not.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 11:27 am
Calamity Jane--

Socializing with whom? -- If I may ask.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 12:47 pm
With my family and friends Noddy.

Actually, some of my friends are scattered around the world and
one way to socialize with them is either by email or a private
chat room.

Before internet, we would write or call ocassionally,
but now we keep up more frequently thanks to the net.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 01:17 pm
Calamity Jane--

My guess is that while time is "hydraulic", Internet chat is not necessarily chat with strangers--particularly in the Middle Class of Mobile America.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 01:20 pm
Let's see - less t.v. time, more reading, and more IRL meetings with interesting people. I like my life better with the internet.




It also probably saved my life one night when my furnace made an odd noise. I turned it off - checked out the sound online - called my service provider - they came at 4 in the morning and started the necessary repairs.
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colorbook
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 01:34 pm
I never seem to watch a great deal of TV; there are so many other new and interesting things to read and enjoy on line. However, before the internet was invented, I used to read a lot more from books.
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Heeven
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 01:49 pm
Actually I use the internet to extend my social life. This week I googled Hawaii since I am planning a vacation in 2005 with my sisters. I checked out "First Night" in Boston for tomorrow so I could get my button and plan the activities with my gal-pals. I looked up some restaurants for a dinner-date. I booked a show, and I sent flowers for my moms birthday. Without the internet, I would have had to take considerably more time to arrange this stuff the old-fashioned way and perhaps would have dropped some of these activities simply because I didn't have time to arrange them - thus reducing my real-life social activities.

Oh and I don't have an ISP at home so I am not tempted to be online all weekend - my weekends are for socialising and stuff.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 04:30 pm
Mental stimulation, yeah - hit, nail, head. Hadnt thought of it, but its true, thats one thing I find almost entirely on the net now, whether through reading stuff or discussing things here.

I mean, I read tons of real, paper newspaper stuff, and the odd book or two (though not enough, and definitely less b/c of the net) - but IRL I don't really know people who can discuss about it engagingly, enthusiastically or eruditely. And just one out of three would have been enough, too. So it's true that that's kinda been a prime reason to seek contact online. When I'm with my father and/or sister there is always interesting discussion about things, but I don't see them much - and with friends, even colleagues, contact seems to focus almost entirely on the personal, rather than the intellectual. They either haven't got so much to say, or different interests.

So that was my answer to the poll question. The article is much bigger though - it's about Internet replacing socialising, friendship time. I think that's true. If, in moments of momentary loneliness of boredom, when you dont feel like "deep" contact but just like chatting, you can just log on, and yourself choose which conversation to engage in, for how long, and what to talk about - hey, it's a temptation. I'm pretty sure I would have picked up the phone instead a lot more often otherwise. It would've been a little less lazy - you don't have such control as you have over online contact. But it would in the end probably be a lot more healthy. Better a good neighbour than a distant friend, the saying is after all.

Just practically speaking (and that's what the saying's about I guess), time invested in real-life contact is a lot more likely to get, you know, a real-life return - someone who's there when you're ill, or who will have known you and where you come from when you're old(er) - than time invested in the online realm. And perhaps, if I share personal stuff or brilliant (err) ideas with people around me rather than shoot it off into virtual space, its more likely to actually go somewhere, or create a bond. So one for the good intentions list for the new year. Hey, my therapist recommends it ;-) .. (but then she's old school Razz )

Oh, and I dont own a TV and don't miss it. That's one thing I'm perfectly happy replacing with the 'net.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 05:03 pm
What is great about the internet is the simple fact that many of us have met other people in person from our social intercoarse on a2k. Met people in London, San Francisco, and Austin so far with one more coming up in Europe in May. Wink Come and join us!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 05:26 pm
I get mine from many sources, Noddy - so I can't answer your poll.

I get heaps from co-workers - HEAPS.

Lots from friends.

Lots from books and journals.

Lots from radio.

A bit from TV.

And a LOT from the net - I am trying to teach myself basic economics, right now, for instance.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 05:39 pm
Nimh said:

"The article is much bigger though - it's about Internet replacing socialising, friendship time. I think that's true. If, in moments of momentary loneliness of boredom, when you dont feel like "deep" contact but just like chatting, you can just log on, and yourself choose which conversation to engage in, for how long, and what to talk about - hey, it's a temptation. I'm pretty sure I would have picked up the phone instead a lot more often otherwise. It would've been a little less lazy - you don't have such control as you have over online contact. But it would in the end probably be a lot more healthy. Better a good neighbour than a distant friend, the saying is after all. "



My net time has prolly replaced TV - suits me cos I get home from work utterly knackered - and I really do not feel like going out on week nights, generally - and work has made me phone phobic - so I HATE chatting with friends on the phone now (and they are utterly knackered too - or like my closest friend, who is a politician, they work until after midnight most nights, anyway). Friend contact is mostly a weekend thing, now - though I will work on changing that this year. I don't think it is the net taking over, though - but WORK. Work - though immensely stimulating - is a sort of cancer in my life over the last few years - it has taken over too much, cos it makes me so tired and fraught - (as well as being a source of absolute joy and enormous exhilaration when the actual therapy is going well - and I am learning really good stuff) I think THAT needs to be fought against - not the net.

Thing is, I do lots of things all at once. I usually leave the net connected and let the machine take calls - but I read, mebbe listen to radio, or watch a little bit of TV, do stuff round the house, go out for a walk, change activity all the time - and pop on the computer for a bit - then off again - unless I am really involved with reading something serious - which I often am at the moment - when I stay at the computer.
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 05:58 pm
dlowan wrote:
Friend contact is mostly a weekend thing, now - though I will work on changing that this year. I don't think it is the net taking over, though - but WORK. Work - though immensely stimulating - is a sort of cancer in my life over the last few years - it has taken over too much, cos it makes me so tired and fraught - (as well as being a source of absolute joy and enormous exhilaration when the actual therapy is going well - and I am learning really good stuff) I think THAT needs to be fought against - not the net.

I can see your point on how "it's work, not the net" and I can imagine how that is true for many, especially in the 30-50 age group. But looking round on A2K, I don't get the feeling that it's true for most posters here.

Also, what I found interesting in the original article was that internet users actually apparently (and fervently) claim that all the net is taking over is time otherwise just spent on TV and stuff - "A 2000 study ... drew angry complaints from some users who insisted that time they spent online did not detract from their social relationships" - but that apparently, the data do seem to show something different. That's well possible, of course, that there is a - is that what's called a cognitive dissonance? (I still don't know what that means, but I'm guessing it could be this) - between what one feels is happening and what turns up if stuff actually is monitored/measured.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 06:08 pm
Well, it could become cognitive dissonance when such data is read and understood - if one did not wish to believe it!

Hmm - that point re perceived reality, and empirical fact re net use is interesting.
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saintabby
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 08:58 am
I think I spend most of my time at work!! I try to get on the Internet there but it's always hard. We have to muscle each other out to get on a computer. But I always email-- it's my mail mode of communication b/c I hate talking on the phone. Also, what ruins me as far as TV goes are those new DVD box sets.... I can watch whatever episode I want at whatever time?!?!?!?! Joy of Joys that's a great invention!!!
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 02:52 pm
I've always been selective in my social occasions. I'd rather amuse myself than be bored in the company of others.

Perhaps some extroverts who used to feel that the company of any warm body, whether or not that warm body had anything interesting to say, was preferable to being alone are now cock-a-doodle-dooing on the Internet?
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