What is Proof?

How the hell do you know what I understand or not ? Of course I understand your point about 'the dilation of time' - probably better than you !

Unfortunately your moronic statement 'philosophy is crap' is typical of the poorly educated egotists we get from time to time here with their parochial pet 'gems'.

. "Reality isn't real ". "Philosophy is crap". Is there a big difference? I think Fresco needs a "reality" check and Cameronleon needs to understand "there is a lot more to "reality" than your senses can detect.

It's hard to believe after all our recent exchanges that you think l could come up with a vacuous bit of word salad like 'reality isn't real'.

You are twisting what I said.

I repeat it for you, your thoughts didn't exist before you were born. Your thoughts came to be after you were born and started learning about the world thru your senses.

Any philosophy saying the contrary is pure crap.

I exist, then I think.

Oh, yeah?

Tell me, pulling it from the most profound of your insight, how the hell you will be capable to perceive "a lot more to reality"" without being born first?

Hmm?

You are born with all your senses atrophied, tell me how are you going to recognize any other reality, and if you do, how are you going to inform about it to others?

I ask you, because I am an expert in Sensation and Perception.

I have practiced my knowledge with people with disabilities.

I asked. for example, to a blind woman the way how she dreams. She told me that her dreams are with "sounds", because she has never perceived light or images.

And we have lots of meetings where she was telling me with detail the way she dreams, the way she recognizes the world around with sounds, with perception of echo from solid bodies like walls and furniture, how she learned to recognize faces and the health of known people by her with the touch sense.

I have one experience with a blind boy that until today still making me laugh because the way he recognized a neighbor from blocks away of his house. It is practically as good as telling a joke.

Well perhaps I will write it in another message.

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By the way, today philosophy is a career that gives you a diploma only, because nobody hires a philosopher any more, unless is the university and with purpose of teaching this branch of knowledge.

Philosophy is not practical, it won't take you anywhere because has no purpose in our lives.

In the old times, philosophy was the intellectual entertainment, but sadly, many dudes took it 'seriously".

I'll tell you this, philosophy is like the game chess, a good entertainment that helps you to increase your intellect when you study the different topics in order to provide a surreal opinion of them.

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By the way, it's not me the one who said "reality is not real".

I'd say that's a good enough reason right there for philosophy degree and to teach it in high school. Wouldn't you?

Ah yes. It's never too late to obfuscate.

As I said . . .

"Proof" is an answer that satisfyes the scope n depth of a question.

...the problem with answers is intrinsically linked with the assumptions made in a question. Questions, unlike most ppl, tend to believe do not have an open-ended infinite scope. Questions entail a frame of reference full of assumptions. Obviously enquiring about the questioning focal point itself is the first step to get a more manageable answering.

It's no wonder that your thread's gone nowhere given your disarrayed thoughts.

What is the proof -- that God exists?

Two proofs I can give:
1. Where did the skeleton and hair come from? A man has sperms in liquid form. A woman has ovum in liquid form. When the sperm and ovum unite, a fetus is formed and eventually a baby is born. But baby died and buried. After sometime, it was ex

exhumed. We know that the sperms and egg are in liquid form. How come and there were skeleton and hair that were found? Where did they come from?
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The mother's food, then the mother's milk, and then when the kid gets weaned, it's own food.

This is pretty basic stuff, most people understand it, just because this is one of a great many things you, and the Spirit of Ama, don't understand doesn't make it one of life's great mysteries.

But the child was born dead. So there is no milk from the mother. Besides, is there any skeleton and hair from the milk of the mother?

That means that there is God for "one of life's great mysteries".

There's a lot more of them for you than for the rest of us.

Then the first one, the mother's food feeds the baby through the placenta.

This is very simple stuff, most kids grasp this, but not you.

You're like Baldric, see if you can follow this.

2. The rooster and the hen. Get an egg directly from the cloaca of the hen. Punch a hole on the egg and drink it. Did your mouth feel any beak and feathers? After sometime that the hen sits on the eggs, chicks were born. Where did the beak and feather come from? No placenta here. Is this "one of life's great mysteries"? Is it a proof that God exists?

It's not a mystery, the material for making the beak is in the yolk. The biochemical process by which the embryo develops is understood by science and not at all mysterious.

How are you doing on the beans?