IT WAS PROPER FOR GI TO QUESTION RUMSFELD

On the one hand you say vehicles should be armored to the "maximum practical extent." On the other you seem to have supported Rumsfeld's childish (IMO) "well even tanks can be blown up" attitude.

Yes and yes. Nothing childish about the reality of what Rummy said, IMO.

And I agree, the money we're spending on Iraq to "combat terrorism" could be much better spent domestically, if protecting the lives of US citizens were actually the goal of this administration.

I don't.

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We went over the armor question...remember?

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1058557#1058557

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woiyo wrote:

It took guts for the GI to ask the question (wether or not he thought of the question) and given the curcumstances, YES, it was quite appropriate and proper.

I can only imagine the fustration the GI's have given the fact that they can not do what they were trained to do (kill people and break things) and keep getting killed by ill-equiped HUMVEES.

The answer Runsfeld gave was most innappropriate. He basicly acknowledged that the GI's lack the proper equipment when he said "YOU GO TO WAR WITH THE ARMY YOU HAVE".

That is a disgraceful answer and in my view, Rumsfeld should resign as a result.

I realize that I am little late and there are more pages in this thread to read, but I am just shocked that I agree with everything you said. Will probably make you want to change your answer. :wink:

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McG...I just got around to reading the rest of the link you provided in the opening of this thread.

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Example: When the Army decided last winter to cancel development of its Cold War relic Comanche helicopter, Sen. Christopher Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, immediately took to the barricades. "It simply doesn't make sense to pull the plug on the Comanche," Mr. Dodd said.

Yep. I checked, and guess where the Comanches are made?

Connecticut. Laughing

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Of course, were the Comanche production sited in Texas, things would be COMPLETELY different... Rolling Eyes

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woiyo wrote:

Then the question becomes, why are HUMVEES being used at all? It appears that, while casualties are low, a high percentage of those casualties are a result of the HUMVEE. At some point, either the stratagy needs to be changed, or the equipment needs to be changed.

Why is Rumsfeld having a hard time figuring that out?

dunno... i read somewhere about a year ago that there was still a bunch of apc's sitting in western europe, unused, because communism is dead ( somebody needs to tell china and remind putin, btw. be sure to c.c. to castro and the people's republic of vietnam ).

seems like a good number of them could have been in iraq by now.

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Magus wrote:

Of course, were the Comanche production sited in Texas, things would be COMPLETELY different...

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