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Should the government get involved in baseball/steroids

 
 
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:48 am
If John McCain wants to get involved in sports management and use illegal drugs as an excuse...he is screwing up....he needs to start managing rock bands..... we use REAL drugs....steroids are for pussies...maybe I'll send him our web site and a demo cd.....
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:56 am
Say what ya want about gov't involvement, I think the free market will sort this one out.

Baseball has fallen on hard times these last ten years, and this certainly doesn't help matters. Personally, I think Bonds should have every one of his MVP trophies revoked.

Stupid juicer, ruining the game for everyone else!

Cycloptichorn
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 11:09 am
but if steroid use is that rampant....doesn't it still make Bonds a standout?

We live in a society that advertises drugs and pills and special supplements and foods as the answer to everything, so what's the damn bitch here? And with technology over the years improving balls, bats, shoes, etc. in order to enhance performance then what's the freaking difference if the next step is taken and drugs are used to enhance performance?

How about we make everyone in sports take drugs?

Yee Haw!!!!
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 11:13 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
but if steroid use is that rampant....doesn't it still make Bonds a standout?


Yeah... Hank Aaron the other day said that steroids may make you stronger but they don't help you hit a fastball.
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fishin
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 04:05 pm
Lady J wrote:
Sport leagues have their own commissions and governing bodies. Surely they should be able to handle their own dilemmas without government interference. It shouldn't come out of our taxpayer pockets, which it would eventually boil down to.


So let's pull their legal monopoly status and make them all fend for themselves. Apparently they couldn't handle that themselves.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 04:07 pm
if these idiots want to shrink their balls and enlarge their heads, let 'em. But the worry is that it will trickle into college and then to high school and then......
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Lady J
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 04:48 pm
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
Quote:
U.S. Federal Law

The Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990 became law on November 29, 1990, when former President Bush signed the Omnibus Crime Control Bill. The law applies in every Federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class - Schedule III -- as barbiturates, LSD precursors, veterinary tranquilizers like ketamine and narcotic painkillers like Vicodin. Simple possession of any Schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000. Simple possession by a person with a previous conviction for certain offenses, including any drug or narcotic crimes, must get imprisonment of at least 15 days and up to two years, and a minimum fine of $2,500. Individuals with two or more such previous convictions face imprisonment of not less than 90 days but not more than three years, and a minimum fine of $5,000, just for simply possessing. Selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a federal felony. An individual who sells steroids, or possesses with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison (with at least two additional years of supervised release) and/or a $250,000 fine. An individual who commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a drug offense faces up to ten years imprisonment (with at least four additional years of special parole) and/or increased fines.



link


Hmmmm, I wonder if this now means my days of dexamethasone use are over. What a shame that could be. Sad
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Lady J
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 04:53 pm
fishin' wrote:
Lady J wrote:
Sport leagues have their own commissions and governing bodies. Surely they should be able to handle their own dilemmas without government interference. It shouldn't come out of our taxpayer pockets, which it would eventually boil down to.


So let's pull their legal monopoly status and make them all fend for themselves. Apparently they couldn't handle that themselves.


Would that mean all "professional" sport teams would then become employees of the Federal government?
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Lady J
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 05:16 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Say what ya want about gov't involvement, I think the free market will sort this one out.

Baseball has fallen on hard times these last ten years, and this certainly doesn't help matters. Personally, I think Bonds should have every one of his MVP trophies revoked.

Stupid juicer, ruining the game for everyone else!

Cycloptichorn


You make it sound like Bonds is the only player, ever in history to use a performance enhancing drug. And he hasn't even been found guilty of doing so at this time. It's like jp quoted Hank Aaron as saying, the steroids may make you stronger but they don't help you hit a fastball." Oh yeah, and while we're looking at getting stronger, let's just ignore the fact that Bonds spends at least 4 hours every day in the gym working out.
As for how different he looks now than when he first started the game? He wasn't even 22 years old when he made his debut on May 30th 1986 with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Get real! If you are at least 40 years old, look back at a picture of yourself when you were 21 and tell me how YOU have changed. Add onto that that he grew up in the game, lived, ate, slept, dreamt baseball every day of his life. He grew up at Candlestick Park. Baseball has been his calling since he could pick up a baseball. He was an outstanding ball player at Sierra High and Arizona State both. This IS this man's life dream and career. Bonds has always known what he has needed to do to be the best in baseball. And that means working his ass off every single day.

If you want to collectively bitch about how steroid use, all those juicers, are ruining the game for everyone else, then please do so. But don't hand pick one single player just because he happens to be the best and you've got a bad taste of sour grapes in your mouth because of it.
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fishin
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 08:44 pm
Lady J wrote:
fishin' wrote:
Lady J wrote:
Sport leagues have their own commissions and governing bodies. Surely they should be able to handle their own dilemmas without government interference. It shouldn't come out of our taxpayer pockets, which it would eventually boil down to.


So let's pull their legal monopoly status and make them all fend for themselves. Apparently they couldn't handle that themselves.


Would that mean all "professional" sport teams would then become employees of the Federal government?


No. It would mean the existing professional leagues like MLB, the NFL, NBA and NHL would all be split up just like AT&T was a few decades back. They would lose their exemptions to the Anti-trust laws that were granted by the Congress.
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Lady J
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2004 02:17 pm
fishin' wrote:
Lady J wrote:
fishin' wrote:
Lady J wrote:
Sport leagues have their own commissions and governing bodies. Surely they should be able to handle their own dilemmas without government interference. It shouldn't come out of our taxpayer pockets, which it would eventually boil down to.


So let's pull their legal monopoly status and make them all fend for themselves. Apparently they couldn't handle that themselves.


Would that mean all "professional" sport teams would then become employees of the Federal government?


No. It would mean the existing professional leagues like MLB, the NFL, NBA and NHL would all be split up just like AT&T was a few decades back. They would lose their exemptions to the Anti-trust laws that were granted by the Congress.


What a friggin mess that would be. Sad
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