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Should the government get involved in baseball/steroids

 
 
Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 06:37 pm
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McCain Threatens Baseball Over Drugs


Ariz. Senator Wants Stricter Steroid Policy



By Dana Milbank and Thomas Heath
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, December 4, 2004; Page A01



As Major League Baseball's steroid scandal widened to include the sport's most prolific active home run hitter, Senate Commerce Committee Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.) said yesterday that he will introduce legislation imposing drug testing standards on professional athletes if baseball players and owners do not adopt a stringent crackdown on steroids by January.


Should we leave it up to the owners/players assoc? If they can't get it done do you think the government should get involved? Do you think they have the right to get involved? Or should nothing be done?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 08:30 pm
Should the government get involved in baseball/steroids------NO
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 08:41 pm
At present are there federal laws banning steroid use?
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fishin
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 09:08 pm
Re: Should the government get involved in baseball/steroids
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
Do you think they have the right to get involved?


Since Major League Baseball is allowed to operate as a monopoly based on a special provision specifically granted by the Congress that allows them to bypass anti-monolpoly law, yes. They do have the right.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 09:26 pm
Yes. Steroid use is illegal... but what McCain is suggesting is beyond just legal action. He wants to make legislation that forces the league to do testing. He wants to write the rules for baseball.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 09:55 pm
this is an example of the worst features of both dems and repubs, see a problem=make a law.
The more laws a society makes the more corrupt it is to begin with.
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revel
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2004 10:19 pm
I agree with dyslexia. Besides maybe it is just me but I just can't help feeling that there will be some who will play politics with sports if the government get more involved than it already is.
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DimestoreDiva
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 06:03 am
Where is Bush, didn't he mention steroid use in his State of the Union address?
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DimestoreDiva
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 06:04 am
revel, everything is politics.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 06:08 am
The government is far too involved in the lives of citizens as it is. Let baseball, and other sports, govern themselves!
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 08:22 am
I tend to agree with those that say it is none of the governments business... stay the heck out.

But what if MLB doesn't do anything about steroids? Right now they have one pre-planned, pre-timed testing date. The players that are getting tested know in advance when they are going to be tested. What if MLB just continues with this trend and doesn't take this seriously? The arguement, of course, is that in order to get into the majors you have to start taking in the minors, which means in order to get into the minors you have to start taking in college/highschool. Or do you just not care what athletes do to themselves?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 08:24 am
frankly Charlotte
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Lady J
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:09 am
I have to totally agree with Dys, Phoenix and revel. The government should stay the heck out of sports. The government has enough on their plate as is without having to spend further tax dollars to form commissions and governing bodies to oversee how American sports are run. First it would be baseball, then basketball, then hockey, then soccer, then car racing, then football and every other sport in the country.

Sport leagues have their own commissions and governing bodies. Surely they should be able to handle their own dilemmas without government interference. It shouldn't come out of our taxpayer pockets, which it would eventually boil down to.
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panzade
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:15 am
It depends on whether you consider baseball a sport or entertainment. If it continues to develop cartoon characters like the World Wrestling Federation it will be out of McCain's jurisdiction.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:34 am
How do you guys feel about The Supreme Court ruling against the PGA and allowing Casey Martin to ride carts? I think this is just as intrusive as federally mandated steroid testing.
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Larry434
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:38 am
Unless steroid use is illegal, and I don't think it is....OF COURSE NOT!
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:40 am
It is illegal. (I'll look for a link)
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:42 am
The federal government should definitely, definitely, find something else to do with their time.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:43 am
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U.S. Federal Law

The Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990 became law on November 29, 1990, when former President Bush signed the Omnibus Crime Control Bill. The law applies in every Federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class - Schedule III -- as barbiturates, LSD precursors, veterinary tranquilizers like ketamine and narcotic painkillers like Vicodin. Simple possession of any Schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000. Simple possession by a person with a previous conviction for certain offenses, including any drug or narcotic crimes, must get imprisonment of at least 15 days and up to two years, and a minimum fine of $2,500. Individuals with two or more such previous convictions face imprisonment of not less than 90 days but not more than three years, and a minimum fine of $5,000, just for simply possessing. Selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a federal felony. An individual who sells steroids, or possesses with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison (with at least two additional years of supervised release) and/or a $250,000 fine. An individual who commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a drug offense faces up to ten years imprisonment (with at least four additional years of special parole) and/or increased fines.



link
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Larry434
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2004 10:44 am
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
It is illegal. (I'll look for a link)


This link makes it sound as if at least some are legal....for now.

http://washingtontimes.com/business/20031030-094616-3501r.htm
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