Tartarin, I agree that in Western culture, Christianity seems on the wane except in the US. Here it is sadly virulent.
I especially agree that religion changes with the times. This is one reason it survives. Yet, fundamentalist Christianity, for example, claims to be the one religion that relies on the literal interpretation of the Bible and to be in belief and practise exactly as Jesus taught. This is patently false. I've always thought that if Jesus could, via time machine from another dimension, arrive in today's American Bible Belt, he'd have a stroke as a result of looking at what is being done in his name.
Hazlitt, Jesus would never "have a stroke." LOL c.i.
Hazlitt I second your opinion . . . . I too live in the bible belt and often witness the "virtues" of fundamentalist Christianity. . . . . . last time I checked it out judgment was up to God according to the bible. . . . .
What does it mean, this concept of an all-loving God? When, for example, a family has a child abducted, and thankfully the child is returned safely and not killed, and the family says "God was watching over us." Did God not watch over the families whose children are brutally killed?
the converse is also common, "your child died because god needed him in heaven" sick
You never hear an athlete say "We could have won the game, but Jesus made me flub that 3-pointer"
bi-bear i often say that, but then i am not an athlete
Jesus made me come in here and sit at the computer when I should be doing something else.
WHEW! Now I can relax and enjoy it.
God only created the us. It is up to us to do the rest. You can supply a workman with tools it's up to him to use them correctly. Organized religion a path chosen was and is IMO a wrong choice.
au, "God created us?" I'm 100 percent sure that my parents 'created' me.
c.i.
c.i.
And who gave your parents the power to procreate?
What came first the chicken or the egg?
God might have done a much better job, but my parents created me too, Cicerone. By mistake, or so I'm told!
Both, Au, as we all know.
Tartarin
Quote:Both, Au, as we all know.
Both what?And what is it we all know? Frankly I do not know,I just hope. And that hope becomes stronger as the end comes nearer and nearer. As the song goes is that all there is? I hope not.
Both chicken and egg came first. Be a creationist -- it simplifies everything... (And you don't have to take history or biology.)
Spiritually and theologically, I'm a pal of primordial slime.
i prefer to think of it as primordial ooze, slime is such an icky word.
Or we could say matter and space have always been here and will never end, but in this case, one must take biology. Primordial ooze is a friend of mine too.
In that case, the chicken and egg question is mute.
"In that case, the chicken and egg question is mute"
unless its a sandwich we are talking about
Sounds like a tasty sandwich to me, Dys. Yum
