At least 4 million Einherjar since there are more Norwegians in the US than Norway. Shut your yap and eat some lutefisk and krumkake, and wash them down with a Hansa.
Btw my maiden name is Pederson, and my grandparents came from Lebesby in 1907. Before I die I hope to see a fjord.
There goes any credibility those teachers might have, about anything.
Idiots.
MaryM wrote:At least 4 million Einherjar since there are more Norwegians in the US than Norway. Shut your yap and eat some lutefisk and krumkake, and wash them down with a Hansa.
Btw my maiden name is Pederson, and my grandparents came from Lebesby in 1907. Before I die I hope to see a fjord.
Certainly much more than 4 million or they would not be able to exert such influence in a country the size of the US. We have nuts as well, but they are few and thus do not exert the kind of influence the american theocons do.
We had "special" instructors for sex-ed stuff in junior high. Took the place of one of our regular classes. Our normal teachers didn't participate except to keep things on an even keel.
Junior high? That seems late to be starting this kind of education.
Haha, people at free republic are defending this stuff.
MaryM wrote:Even a smart guy like Bill Clinton didn't wear one when Monica sharpened his pencil, absolutely ignoring the advice from every "reputable" source regarding safe sex.
When the leader of the free world screws up like that (sorry), any % failure rate is possible.
Remember, Clinton never had actual intercourse with Monica. It was blowjobs and handjobs. And a cigar.
ehBeth wrote:Junior high? That seems late to be starting this kind of education.
Nowadays, sure. This was 20 years ago, though. Might have been late then, too, I guess.
We started when I was in Grade 4 - which was about 35
years ago. I'd have expected things to progress, not regress.
Teens will do what they want to do.
Period.
Irrespective of the pledge we all made as teens to avoid becoming "like my parents", the generation gap between "us" and "them" broadens, along with the varying levels of acceptable behavior within their peer group vs. ours.
Theoretically you could raise a child in isolation, filling their hungry minds with falsehoods and misinformation, passing it all off as fact, and they would never know the difference until they emerged as a free thinking being in the real world.
While I do not in any endorse said instruction, I can understand the pitiful justification behind it--it's like telling kids about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny. They're going to discover the truth about the two fictional characters sooner than later, but in the mean time their existence serves a purpose.
It is nothing short of a pathetic agenda driven mandate to inseminate as many people with your ideology as you can--and it will do much more harm than good.
Having just read all the comments.
I would say to the question where would they get teachers willing to teach these lies. There are approximately give or take 40 million evangelical Christians.
Regarding the teaching of sex education in schools. That would have been unheard of in my generation. I am not quite sure whether teaching it is a deterrent or a promoter of sexual activity. However, if it need be taught everything both the promotion of safe sex as well as abstinence should be included.
The teaching of abstinence only is ignoring reality. Something that this administration is prone to do.
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Quote:The teaching of abstinence only is ignoring reality. Something that this administration is prone to do.
The problem is that abstinence works the best, it is a time proven method of not getting an STD as well as not getting pregnant. It is hard for kids to get around the message of sex being an ok thing for them to do. Society has been pushing sexual messages strongly for several years now and for the younger population, it is the only message they have received. When you see TV it is filled with pro sex images with no consequences, how can parents and schools compete with that?
Abstinence is something that hasn't been strongly taught in this country for at least the last decade. I don't have an issue with pro-sex and abstinence being taught but I would hope that abstinence is the stronger of the 2.
Baldimo- I absolutely agree with you. Our country has become very sexualized, and kids have absorbed that message. I think that it is fine to teach abstinence, as part of a sexual health curriculum.
The problem is when lies are being taught as truth. I was thinking about this, and how the fundamentalist Christians are probably cheering at the entire idea of scaring kids about abortion, STDs, potential suicidal behavior, sterility, etc.
Then again, aren't those the same folks who preach hellfire and brimstone?
well Phoenix, you might say hellfire and brimstone is quite likely to 'scare the pants off of them' and that would be kinda self-defeating. (if you get my drift)
Baldimo
If you mean abstinence works best in preventing pregnancy and STD's that is a given. However, if you mean that teaching abstinence only works best, what do you mean by best. Youth today and in fact the not so young are bombarded by TV and the movies with the message, it's great come join the fun. While that message abounds it would be foolish in fact stupid if the message of protecting one's self is ignored. As our great leader would have us do.
As a side note the elderly need those lessons as well. The elderly are now one of the largest groups contracting AIDS.
I heard an article on NPR that cited studies in the US and abroad that abstinence only programs had the same or worse outcome when compared to other approaches.
