Is debate possible between ignoramuses?How is it possible

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Thanks for suggesting that I am lonely.I take it as a compliment.

I do too.

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I am reading Prof Vitz's Sigmund Freud's Christian Unconscious.Do you know him?It is very interesting.Have you read it?

No I haven't read it. I'll have to admit however that books presenting theories about something the author does not understand annoy me. In order to write about psychoanalysis in an intelligent way, one must have a working knowledge of the theory........what it says and what it doesn't say. I've found few authors critical of psychoanalysis who are actually informed about the theory they are criticizing. It's like a book that is a critique of something like modern art, for example when the author has never studied modern art with modern artists themselves.

But tell me about it. What do you find interesting about it?

But this guy Mathos, while he needs to learn to appreciate your crooked hat style, seems to be an educated type. Do you really want to exclude everyone but me from your thread? It's so much fun playing with others. Come on, spendius. Give it a try. Afterall, you like the MG don't you? You've always been happy to include him.

As to the Goddess.....I haven't gotten to it yet. I've been having guests and the most that's happened with the book, other than the MG reading it, is that my lovely two year old grand daughter spilled a full glass of red wine on it last week. Oh well, it now has much more character. I apologized to the book, just the same. But the book would have nothing of it. It simply insisted that it enjoyed the nice big taste of wine. But I'm afraid it was only the wine talking.

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farmerperson

Do you recall the wonderful news item from a decade or so past where everyone's favorite little blonde ice-skater, thug employer, and amateur pornography purveyor, Tonya Harding, was arrested somewhere around the magnificent Pacific Northwest for beating her husband's brains with a hubcap? Hubcaps don't migrate, you're right on that. Not on their own. They are a parasitc symbiote and rely upon DeSotos which began arriving in the PNW about 1930. Now, we can't get rid of them. They fill the good fishing holes and cover up perfectly fine wooden fences. Spendius, I would think, has such a fence, or a wall on his hut similarly under hubcap infestation.

spen dius (I thought the latinate form would lend a certain dignity where it may be needed)

I'm afraid I've treated the Goddess rather as was the case with my first wife...it is to hand, but is unhanded. There was a brief initial fling, yes, but several other competitors caught my eye. If she is the sort of Goddess I require in Goddesses, she'll understand my dalliances.

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Oooh Blatham.........I DO understand.

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Mathos:-

A wassock is any geezer who tries to muscle in on the lady I am having a conversation with and who thinks he has anything more interesting for her to listen to than I provide.It's a sort of diminutive or encapsulation of a "was a cock".A flasher asserting his machismo with flowery words like the Master of Ceremonies in The Good Old Days used to do before they hooked him off.

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MG:-

I'm sorry to be the one to break the sad tidings but She is NOT (emphasis added for additional effect) the sort of Goddess who has the slightest shred of interest in what you require.Were She to have She would not be a Goddess.One glance,one little sniff in the direction of a competitor and you are thunderbolted cinderlike.She understands nothing outside of Her own urges.She's fearsome.Perhaps your problem with Her is something to do with "derealisation".There's a small but crucial aspect of Her in every lady which,you may have noticed,is a common feechewer of advertising aimed at them.

Anyway-it's nice to see you again.

Best wishes.

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et tu, sp

Sad tidings are the way of it. Other than those brief visionary floods of alcohol and bowel movements while on acid, the tilt of the universe doesn't meet my approval. The goddesses are big, the pleasures small, the huns breed faster than one can manage without an industrial-sized canister of EvangelOff and Tony's babyface will out. Tragedy as far as the eye can see.

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Right on mate.My sentiments exactly.

But we were talkin' Shakespeare runaway blues.

"................when asked what you
do for a living say you laugh for
a living."

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Lola:-

Will you kindly provide me with a "working knowledge of the theory".

I don't think Vitz has a theory on its own.The book I mentioned is a catalouge of evidence mostly from Freud's own writings.But the Catholic nanny plays a fair part.

Vitz is,or was,professor of psychology at New York University.He gives me the impression he knows his way around but I will stand,or even bendover,to be corrected on that.

I know why you want to include others on the thread.No1-you like an attentive circle of men around you then you can diffuse and No2 they provide opportunities to evade issues because you have a wider choice and can choose the easiest.And what choice do I have in the matter.You flatter them as you wish.There's not a poet in sight.If you and I got down to some serious psychology they would run off kicking and screaming like married philosophers do when serious philosophy is on the table.Hughes would be a real bogeyman but he's quite harmless if we only stain him up with wine.

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blatham.

Your "first wife?"... here I thought the RCMP had a strict celibacy rule.

Thanks much for the insight into the ecology of hubcaps.

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spendius wrote:

Mathos:-

A wassock is any geezer who tries to muscle in on the lady I am having a conversation with and who thinks he has anything more interesting for her to listen to than I provide.It's a sort of diminutive or encapsulation of a "was a cock".A flasher asserting his machismo with flowery words like the Master of Ceremonies in The Good Old Days used to do before they hooked him off.

Ah ! I see Spendius, not only are you making use of the unknown, you have the capabilities to substantiate it's existence? The science, laws, theories, or principles of classification are at the meanderings of your choice, and you see no harm in exercising explosive rages in the infantile manner of your feeble attempts to subdue the opposition ! Perhaps you were born to do better things 'Old Boy!'

Hello Lola, how are you to-day? Some verse for your consideration: -

Fairer than what Queen Venus trod upon
Beneath the pines of Ida, eucharis,
That morning star which does not dread the sun
And budding marjoram which but to kiss
Would sweeten Cytherae's lips and make
Adonis jealous, these for thy head, and for
thy girdle take

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Madison Avenue or 52nd Street after midnight? Ohhhh, that old back alley! Sure Mathos. You should be so lucky, dude. Nice dream though.

You are familiar with the rendezvous point? I am delighted, it almost secures a bond of friendship between ourselves. I must admit to having travelled well in your country, an interesting topic of conversation for evening discussion on this side of 'The Pond' Dear Lola. How well I recall 'frogging' with Gene Hanna's boy's over in MO, now that was an experience in life not to have been missed. Especially my introduction to those 'snappers.' Oh and on my introduction to Gene, I shall never forget those words : - "Y'all come over here in one of them big birds?"

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By The way Lola, have you viewed 'The Zimmerman' topic, our mutual friend Spendius has really been showing some peculiar traits on that particular item of concern. I rather think he has been suffering the pangs of jealousy. The 'Real Stuff' started just after I introduced myself to you for the first time. If you compare the dates and flit between the covers so to speak, you will see the evidence. It is in its own merits and fabrication an extremely delicate but interesting psychological format to follow. Let me know what you think, are you capable of a brief analysis on his meanderings? Which I may add, you will see for yourself to be extremely beneficial as a study alone. I find it a superb subject, in fact I may word a thread on it's merits. Don't really wish to exacerbate his condition though.

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spendius wrote:

Lola:-

Will you kindly provide me with a "working knowledge of the theory".

I don't think Vitz has a theory on its own.The book I mentioned is a catalouge of evidence mostly from Freud's own writings.But the Catholic nanny plays a fair part.

Vitz is,or was,professor of psychology at New York University.He gives me the impression he knows his way around but I will stand,or even bendover,to be corrected on that.

I know why you want to include others on the thread.No1-you like an attentive circle of men around you then you can diffuse and No2 they provide opportunities to evade issues because you have a wider choice and can choose the easiest.And what choice do I have in the matter.You flatter them as you wish.There's not a poet in sight.If you and I got down to some serious psychology they would run off kicking and screaming like married philosophers do when serious philosophy is on the table.Hughes would be a real bogeyman but he's quite harmless if we only stain him up with wine.

My dearest Spendi,

You give me no credit. My love of the many does not distract me from my love of the one. Love is not a commodity that can be all used up and then there is no more. I think Mr. Mathos is picking on you for some unknown reason. Do you have any idea?

Let's test your theory. Tell me more about the good prof's theory about Freud's theism. But remember what I explained. All things are compromise formations. Some are better than others, you know.

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Lola:-

Mathos isn't picking on me.He's just making waves.
I'm surprised at you taking him on when he insists on avoiding Bob's proper name.He's trying to be disrespectful.
He must fancy you.Want's to ease me out.It's your choice.Must be those lovely legs of yours I guess.

But I'm all clogged up today so I can't concentrate.

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It's the legs, it's always the legs...........

I'm sorry to hear of your clogged condition. I've been lucky this year........no clog so far.

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farmerman wrote:

blatham.

Your "first wife?"... here I thought the RCMP had a strict celibacy rule.

Thanks much for the insight into the ecology of hubcaps.

farmerperson

Yes. A little american creature with eyes the color of desert thistle. After our brief union, a daughter was born to us who gained (thank the blessed angels!) her looks and my intellect. The reverse, I assure you, would have given even the Pope pause. That RCMP rule was abandoned long ago but the other one, involving huskies, is still on the books.

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Phillosophy:- Freudian ? Faux de mieux ! Your temper and irrationality do little to support the ways of a Freudian Spendius! As a Faustian, I seek no Zimmerman as an 'icon' Do you have a Zimmerman picture by your bedside? A Zimmerman key ring for your BMW? (Construction, busy = affluence) What about a Zimmerman welcome mat? Where ever would you put your's?Or a Zimmerman Visa Card, (now that is a good one). A Zimmerman tattoo? You might consider a swing over to Philo !

Lola, Hello from The Faustian!

For one at least there is, He bears his name
From Dante and the seraph of Gabriel
Whose double laurel's burn with deathless flame
To light thine alter; He too loves thee well
Who saw old Merlin lured in Viviens snare,
And the white feet of angels coming down the golden stair.

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Phillosophy:- Freudian ? Faux de mieux ! Your temper and irrationality do little to support the ways of a Freudian Spendius! As a Faustian, I seek no Zimmerman as an 'icon' Do you have a Zimmerman picture by your bedside? A Zimmerman key ring for your BMW? (Construction, busy = affluence) What about a Zimmerman welcome mat? Where ever would you put your's?Or a Zimmerman Visa Card, (now that is a good one). A Zimmerman tattoo? You might consider a swing over to Philo !

Lola, Hello from The Faustian!

For one at least there is, He bears his name
From Dante and the seraph of Gabriel
Whose double laurel's burn with deathless flame
To light thine alter; He too loves thee well
Who saw old Merlin lured in Viviens snare,
And the white feet of angels coming down the golden stair.

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