Is debate possible between ignoramuses?How is it possible

fm:-

One assumes you are using the Marks and Spencers soft furnishing department's vocabulary.

Well, so it's spendius........... are you all fixed up now?

Yes my lovely lover of the ether.Are to glad?You ought to be judging by the mush I've been reading.

I ought to be judging what by the mush?

Did you wake the grumpy Bernie this morning?

Lola:-

You ought to be judging whether you're glad I'm back or not on the basis of the mush I've been reading as I waited for you to emerge from your cocoon of bliss in the fester-pit.

The MG did rather give the impression that I had disturbed his sleep although I'm not sure what it was I did.

The fester pit? That's no way to refer to the greatest Faustian city in the universe.

Farmerman :- I concur mediocre perversion:- It will all end in tears.
The sow she reaches ecstasy
Rolling in mud and muck
Spendicus and Lola
They are having no such luck.
The pond it lies between them
Spendicus why don't you fly
Is your aim to carry on like this
Until the day you die ?

And there's nothing mediocre about my perversion. It's the best around these parts.

(Quote) Lola:-And there's nothing mediocre about my perversion. It's the best around these parts.

Dear Lola, We would relish knowledge of your perversions ?

Well, Mathos, I don't tell all to just anyone.

Lola:-

Enough of this tomfoolery.

You're a self-confessed Freudian right?That's common in the chattering class circles of all Faustian cities.
It is well known that religion and pychology,particularly psychoanalysis,are sworn enemies stemming from Freud's idea that religion is not trustworthy because it is based on childish needs and wishes.The claim,and correct me if I'm wrong,is that these needs and wishes,desires, are unconscious and derive from neurotic experiences in infancy usually associated with separation anxieties relating to the mother or mother
substitute.The Materialist Theory of Mind goes even further but we won't go into that as it upsets people not a little.Cambridge philosophers for example.
Freud's infant experience of separation from his nanny,one Resi Wittek,who some say had him secretly baptised,has been said by Prof Vitz,amongst others,
to have caused his fascination with Moses,who had two mothers.
The point is that your argument with the religious in our congregation is a waste of time unless you focus on why they are religious and seek to provide them with a psychoanalytical "cure".They are not going to give up their religiousness until they have given up on the needs and wishes and they are likely to defend those to the last ditch so then you would need resistance analysis.Freud didn't try to attack the beliefs.He simply tried to expose the origin of them.
What all this says for working mothers I'm not sure.
It seems to me that the more working mothers of children under 5 there are the more will be the need for religious belief.
You are railing against the rust in the girder instead of getting the tool kit out and fixing it.That is understandable as your symbiosis with the religious would vanish if there were no religious.
On this line of argument you ought to be opposed to working mothers if you really wish to reduce religiousness.

Lola, The man is envious ! Tell him your going fishing !

Mathos:-

I can't imagine what of or why.I never envied a lady in my life.They are such poor tender creatures sadly in need of the care and protection
of understanding males.

Spendius, you have never experienced a woman in love with a whip !

Too bloody right mate.I'm not daft.A woman with a whip???!!!Whatever will they think of next?You would have to do what she said surely if she had a whip.Are you trying to ruin everything that we have took so much trouble to build.

The thrill of being at her mercy ! She will toy with your body as well as your soul, her appearance,
her control and how they love to have control, Spendius, you know not what you have missed along lifes highway. Seek out Lola's charms, she will terrify you, but do no harm. Unless of course she has a whim to think I'll go much further with him, bound with chains a marvellous fetter then when she's done, she'll lick you better. What have we built Spendius, alas, a planet hell bent on destruction. Would it not be formidable to let the maidens take their turn?

Mathos:-

Go ahead mate if that's your bag.I could run a few scenarios of extension which would have you seeking a cardinal's advice and the attentions of a doctor or maybe an undertaker.

You give yourself away by making suggestions what a lady would do under the circumstances you hint at.It wouldn't be your place to do that.You would get an extra dose for such insubordination.

Spendius, if you have never tasted the drink of Bacchus, how are you deemed fit and of sound mind to comment? Cardinals, Doctor's and Undertakers, methinks you are glued to The Popes demise !

Just so happens I was having discussion with a floosy in the local last night, the subject of sadomasochism reared its wonderful head ! She was holding no punches at all raconteuring on her power in subjecting 'The Male Species' as she put it to levels of debauchery that most men would be afraid to fantasise about. I rather consider she makes an extremely prosperous living in The Smoke with her services to the wealthy. It was an enlightening evening all round. Perhaps I could make attempts to locate her works contact number for you Spendius ! Fancy, being admitted a member of her club? Now I would hold you in high esteem if you are prepared to take the plunge!

I am happy to remain in your low esteem.

I do realise that my ignorance of the manifestations of unconditional love is a deliberately contrived circumstance.An acquaintance of mine,who had a degree in geography,which didn't mean he knew much about geography,once told me when I was but a mere stripling that he thought he would try a little corporal punishment when he "accidentally" came across an emporium in a certain part of Hamburg which provided such a service.It was a quid a whack with a tenner up front..On the very first stroke he ran out howling leaving the other nine in the bank so to speak.I'm quite a bit older now and from what I have gleaned the type of thing he described was a mere elementary introduction to a course of treatment which those with the appropriate destiny may qualify to attain a black belt with useful accoutrements which lend themselves to it being the maidens
's turn for ever and ever with no let up and their turn never.

If you're a Dylan fan you should know Dirge.

Oh for a moment's glory
It's a dirty rotten shame.

Or

I hate myself for loving you
And the weakness that it showed

or Acting out his folly while his back is being whipped.

I prefer 'em chubby,cheeky,cheerful and cheap.It takes all sorts.

How come you have time for threading?Shouldn't you be keeping the bathroom shipshape?