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Wanted: Information regarding 11th Century England

 
 
Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2004 03:41 pm
Hi Everyone!

I'm new to these forums, and I was hoping someone could help me in finding some information about 11th century England.

I'm doing research for a book set before or after the Battle of Hastings in 1066 and I was hoping that maybe there's someone out there who's an absolute know-it-all about the period, because I need all the information I can get.

I've spent weeks searching the net and libraries, but I really feel like I need to hear from someone not something.

So, if anyone out there has any information, throw it at me. Even if it's something I already know it would still be great to get different opinions and perspectives.

Keme
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2004 10:19 pm
Hmmm - no takers!

I am no expert, but there is a nice novel - called "The Fourteenth of October" by Bryher, that is set in the period.

It may be a start?

It was, I think, well researched.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 17 Nov, 2004 10:25 pm
Embarrassed

Er - that isn't going to help at all!!!

Amazon has news of only one copy - and that appears to cost $250 - though I am sure ths is a mistake!

I hope I have at least "bumped" this thread up there for you.

Have you looked for any specific history discussion fora?
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Don1
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 01:58 am
Keme,

If you cant find all you want here, the only thing I could suggest would be to take a university degree course Very Happy



http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=battle+hastings
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 07:12 am
Can you be a little more specific. You say before and after 1066 - do you want to know about Harold or William? Harold was dead after 1066. Are you looking for info about daily life? Food, clothing etc. or the new imposed government? Changes in architecture {the Normans has their own style and it's a big topic all by itself} The Bayeux tapestries are a whole book. If you can be less vague than the term 'everything"- I might be able to help without babbling.
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 12:39 pm
Try this if you have not already done so.

www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/normans/background_03.shtml
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Keme Fly-Mac
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 01:51 pm
Keme the Vague
I'm looking for information regarding the 11th century (1001 - 1100) before and after 1066. I say before and after 1066 because some people might see 11th century and automatically think of William the Conqueror and give just information about that.

I want to know about:

-Agriculture

-Flora and Fauna

-Clothing (What they wore, how it was made)

-Food (What they ate, where they got it and how it was cooked)

-Appearance (What did typical Norman & Saxon men & women look like)

-Weather

-Law

-Feudalism

-Currency

-Transportation

-The Norman Conquest (including the Harrying of the North)


As for monarch, I'd like to know about these people:

Æthelred II (Ethelred the Unready)
Cnut (Canute)
Harold I
Hardicnut
Edward (the Confessor)
Harold II
William I
William II

I'd also like to know about other significant people. That's definitely something I forgot to put in my post. I have found bios on top of bios for William and Edward and so on, but I can't seem to find much info about the people around them (friends, family, etc)

I do know a fair amount of information about most of these things, as I have done a lot of research on my own, but I really want to hear from other people.

I'd really love some opinions on who Edward really left his Kingdom to. Who thinks he really left it to Harold? Who thinks Edward really promised it to William?

Sorry if I was so vague before, I don't use forums much, and this is the first time I've talked to anyone about the subject at all.

Keme
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Keme Fly-Mac
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 02:03 pm
Thank you so much fresco!

That link you gave me is, suprisingly, one I haven't seen yet! And it has so much info!

Very Happy Very Happy

. . . my husband is now looking at me as if I've sprouted 10 heads because of my burst of excitement over a history link and the little dance that ensued.

Me: *feels like a loser*
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fresco
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 02:14 pm
Pleased to help.

The BBC is a usually a good source.

You might also try scanning for staff websites in UK history departments. Individuals often list their email addresses and will answer specific questions.
(You might start with the authors of the BBC items)

Regards fresco.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 02:20 pm
Any history department should have a couple of books re the Tapestry of Bayeux in their library.

Have a look at the biography in the latest editions of those, and try to get than the books you want.

You can search libraries here or "worldwide" e.g. HERE.

(Certainly you will know all the information from the Domesday Book already, I suppose, where you find infos about
Who owned each piece of land.
How much land they owned.
How many people lived in each village.
What type of people lived in each village.
How much money each piece of land was worth.
What income people had.
How many animals each person owned.)


This list of lecturers at UK universities, who are specialised in 11th century, could perhaps be helpful as well.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 02:42 pm
Oops, and of course:

Wellcome to A2K, Keme Fly-Mac!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 02:48 pm
Forgot to mention this new -and IMHO- important online help - which incidentally I posted today here on A2K:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=39211&highlight=


Search result for England 11th century

More online resources
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 03:20 pm
Although from the late 10th century, here you might find some more good information, too:

A CANTERBURY LETTERBOOK of the late tenth century

A nice online bibliography:

ANGLO-SAXON CHARTERS BIBLIOGRAPHY 1970-90
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 05:31 pm
I think the other posters have the right idea - you need a wide variety of sources and not the humble interperations of an amatuer historian. Each of your subject headings could be a doctorate. I think you need a trip to England if you want to find first hand sources (few as they be) and maybe a visit into the archives of college history departments.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2004 05:59 pm
try typing Anglo-Saxon England into Google. There are many sites.

Here are four:

http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/oe/old_english.htm

http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/ballc/oe/oe-historical.html

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/vikings/angsaxe.html

http://www.the-orb.net/encyclop/early/pre1000/asindex.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 19 Nov, 2004 12:02 am
Green Witch wrote:
I think you need a trip to England if you want to find first hand sources (few as they be) and maybe a visit into the archives of college history departments.


Well, for a book, a would agree that it is nearly necessary to look at primary sources by own view.

However, since the 11th century of and in Englnad is rather good researched by historians, secondary sources might be sufficient.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 20 Nov, 2004 07:52 am
Well, I do hope, our information was some help.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2004 08:41 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Well, I do hope, our information was some help.


Doesn't seem so.
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bayinghound
 
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Reply Mon 3 Jan, 2005 10:14 pm
A good resource for legal systems between the Roman system and the Reformation would be "Law and Revolution: The Formation of the Western Legal Tradition", by Harold J. Berman, Harvard U Press, Cambridge, 1982.

You could specifically check out Chapter 1. -- The Background of the Western Legal Tradition: The Folklaw; Chapter 9. -- Feudal Law sections on Feudal Custom in teh West Prior to the Eleventh Century and The Emergence of a System of Feudal Law; Chapter 10. -- Manorial Law; Chapter 11. -- Mercantile Law; and the 6 page section on London & Ipswich in Chapter 12. -- Urban Law.

You might also want to become familiar with the Papal Revolution in law which is taking place in the 11th century, which is giving a new prominence and distinction to canon law and is the theme of the book.

By the way, St. Anselm of Cantebury is one of the primary thinkers influencing this change -- the Catholic Encyclopedia's entry on him is ... here.

For currency a good primer is Carlo M. Cipolla's "Between Two Cultures: An Introduction to Economic History", W. W. Norton & Company, New York, 1992.
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