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Reply Sun 14 Nov, 2004 10:09 pm
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Iran agrees to suspend uranium enrichment
Sunday, November 14, 2004 Posted: 7:02 PM EST (0002 GMT)

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran has agreed to fully suspend its uranium enrichment program, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Hasan Rohani announced Sunday, a move that could improve Iran's relations with the West.

Although Iran has said its uranium enrichment activities are intended to produce fuel for nuclear power plants, the United States has said the program is aimed at building nuclear weapons.

The agreement followed 40 minutes of talks between Iranian government representatives and ambassadors of the European Union's so-called Big Three nations, France, Britain and Germany, Rohani said.

Earlier, a Western diplomat told CNN that Iran made the agreement in exchange for a promise not to refer the matter to the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions.

The U.N. watchdog agency -- the International Atomic Energy Agency -- was informed of Iran's decision as soon as possible, Rohani said. He said Iran would soon announce the timing of the suspension.

A European diplomat -- who would offer no details -- said the Europeans got, more-or-less, what they had been seeking from Iran.

A member of the Iranian delegation said the suspension would continue as long as talks between Iran and the European powers continue.

It could take several days before IAEA inspectors are able to travel to Iran and perhaps several more days for them to shut everything down, the Western diplomat said. But he predicted inspectors will be able to determine the status of Iran's program before the scheduled meeting of the IAEA's board of governors November 25 and 26.

A White House spokeswoman said Sunday that officials are "aware of the reports, and we look forward to a briefing by our European friends."

The U.S. State Department had no immediate reaction to Sunday's report, but spokesman Richard Boucher told reporters last week, "The question of where they stand -- where Iran stands -- when we get to the board meeting is the important one."

"Will Iran have complied at that point with the requirements of the IAEA board?," Boucher asked. "Will the IAEA be in a position to verify that and to say that they are engaging in the verification of that kind of promise and activity?"

He added, "Ultimately, it's what Iran does that matters, not just what they have agreed to."

The news followed an announcement on November 7 of a provisional agreement on Iraq's uranium enrichment program through a series of talks between Iraq and the Big Three.

After those talks, Iranian delegation spokesman Hussein Mousavian said the agreement could usher in an important change in Iran's relations with Europe and much of the international community.

The Big Three held three rounds of talks with Iran in an effort to persuade Tehran to suspend its nuclear enrichment activities in return for improved trade and political relations.

In the past, Iran has said any suspension of its program would be short-lived and only with the aim of building confidence between Tehran and the international community.


Hmmm...The solid Bush victory at the polls or the show of strength in Fallujah? Hmmm.
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-I-1-2-No-U-
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 09:39 am
Is processing uranium enriched materials tantamount to planning for nuclear weapon production, or is it exploration of nuclear energy production?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 09:41 am
Those Europeans must be some pretty smooth talkers.
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Thok
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 09:44 am
FreeDuck wrote:
Those Europeans must be some pretty smooth talkers.


We are :-)

But the the IAEA said it could not rule out the existence of nuclear materials that had not been declared.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 09:45 am
-I-1-2-No-U- wrote:
Is processing uranium enriched materials tantamount to planning for nuclear weapon production, or is it exploration of nuclear energy production?


neither...the inference of it is for the consolidation of political power....that was it's true point.....
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 09:51 am
FreeDuck wrote:
Those Europeans must be some pretty smooth talkers.


That was my thought.

I wonder how the bushies will turn this around to Iran being scared of what happend in Iraq as the reason that they suspended their uranium enrichment?

(I know starting trouble..my bad but it was what I expected when I clicked on this thread and was surprised to not find it)
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 09:59 am
... then you didn't read the bottom of the first post? :wink:
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 10:02 am
No I didn't. That's what I get for my habit of skimming.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 10:05 am
revel wrote:
No I didn't. That's what I get for my habit of skimming.


I have a bad habit of skimming too (as frequently evidenced on other threads). Just thought it would make you laugh.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 10:11 am
FreeDuck wrote:
Those Europeans must be some pretty smooth talkers.


Yeah, those tough-talking Europeans have got the mullahs and ayatollahs quaking in their sandals, no doubt. Smile

Of course, who really believes they're going to "halt" anything just because they signed an agreement?

Believe it, Freeduck. The Europeans have nothing to do with this. Iran pursues a path to obtaining nukes and the US will wipe them out. And don't think they don't know it.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 10:14 am
JustWonders wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
Those Europeans must be some pretty smooth talkers.


Yeah, those tough-talking Europeans have got the mullahs and ayatollahs quaking in their sandals, no doubt. Smile

Of course, who really believes they're going to "halt" anything just because they signed an agreement?

Believe it, Freeduck. The Europeans have nothing to do with this. Iran pursues a path to obtaining nukes and the US will wipe them out. And don't think they don't know it.


So which is it then? The Europeans worked the deal but Iran will renege on it (since it was with the Europeans)? Or Iran won't renege on it because they're afraid the US will wipe them out, and that's the real reason they struck the deal?
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 10:31 am
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So which is it then? The Europeans worked the deal but Iran will renege on it (since it was with the Europeans)? Or Iran won't renege on it because they're afraid the US will wipe them out, and that's the real reason they struck the deal?


Iran has only agreed to a "suspension" if I read it correctly. Even then, I have no great reason to believe the EU would actually be successful in enforcing any such agreement. I think it's more likely they see who's carrying the big stick and who is not afraid to use it. My opinion, of course.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 10:58 am
FreeDuck wrote:
revel wrote:
No I didn't. That's what I get for my habit of skimming.


I have a bad habit of skimming too (as frequently evidenced on other threads). Just thought it would make you laugh.


It did, I should have had some kind of emoticon to show how I meant my response. Oh well. (self mockery smile)

Anyway, I guess we can how it is being turned around. On the one hand it is "do you think they are really going to do it" and on the other it is, "they know who really has the big stick"

Gosh, sometimes is it is like the world has been turned upside down and the true bullies look like the heroes of the show. Only it is not a show but real life.

You know how all those fairy tales always had a bully that everyone knew was a bully. Like in Beauty and the Beast. Only now it is like the bully has managed to sway the world into thinking that his or her ways are not bullyish. It's like saying stuff like "my dad can beat your day, so there. " is really a smart thing to say. Or like we have all fallen into Alice in Wonderland. It's crazy.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:01 am
About as crazy as someone who reads and believes the lies of terrorists known as Al-Jazeera Smile

Hmmm.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:04 am
No different than the lies you believe from the sites you read, JW.

Don't let partisanship blind you from sense....

Cycloptichorn
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:06 am
I won't...if you'll make an honest attempt to take your own advice Smile
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gav
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:13 am
JustWonders wrote:
Iran pursues a path to obtaining nukes and the US will wipe them out. And don't think they don't know it.


What an attitude!!! - With people in charge with a like mind, America is really gonna bite off more than it can chew someday!!!
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:21 am
Gav - we won't have to. America's enemies aren't blind, nor do we underestimate them. Especially the Iranians. Remember back a bit when they were holding Americans hostage, releasing them shortly after Reagan won the presidency. Ask yourself why that was.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:21 am
JustWonders wrote:
About as crazy as someone who reads and believes the lies of terrorists known as Al-Jazeera Smile

Hmmm.


Listen, I have only went to that site one time in all the time I have been here in a2k politics and that was the other day (seems like forever ago in message board life)on another thread. I do not know if Al-Jazeera is a site of the lies of terrorist or not. It was simply Arabic and I was trying to get some information from actual people that are over in the area rather than people who are not there or are on our side.

Is Al-Jazeera the news site the same as that Arabic news organization on TV?

In any event, not all of my views are from that one site since I have only recently went to it and that only one time. So to keep harping on it is just silly on your part and I don't know why you are doing it.

Lastly, the article that I posted did not have any lies in it and it was just about civilian casualities and hardships that the people are facing in Falougha. (however you spell it, don't have it anywhere right now where i can see the spelling)
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gav
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2004 11:33 am
This is a bullshit argument coz it aint gonna happen - but, JW even you would have to admit that America could not with stand the financial and human cost of another protracted war.

And with regards to not being blind - if America is so scary why do they keep pushing the envelope? Why does North Korea even, completely ignore you?
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