You need a license to watch TV in UK?!

@farmerman,

I am not sure it is so much as amusing as it just annoying.

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@revelette1,

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Why just scream about what is best and worst why not try to find out why things develope differently in different countries and why people are satisfied with the way it is.

It was not meant at farmerman, but I was agreeing with him about the tone, which is going on here.

2.Why do you have to tell me that not all Americans agree with lax gun regulations.
This is what I told Izzy regarding Americans.
As you did not understand it I will hereby point it out again
I wrote it is just a certain type of Americans. I have hardly ever met them
neither in USA nor in Eurpe.
What I mean with a certain type are the gunloving, intolerancte people.
Also I pointed out they are here in a2k and seem to take up more space than the non gunloving people., which does not mean there more of them. They are just very loud and aggresive

I thought I have clearly enough said my opinion, but it obviously was not clear enough.
Again I have never met in person a gunloving American neither in USA nor in Europe.

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Taking in concideration all the time I have spent in USA and with Americans I would say it is a certain type of Americans. Hardly ever met them in USA or in Europe.
Must admit that here on a2k they seem to take up a lot of space even if they certainly are under represented.

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@farmerman,

Sorry farmerman, that I did not express myself clearly. I meant to be on your side and certainly not against you - on the contrary.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

Oralloy, McG and Izzy have more in common than they know. ( Kinda amusing no?)

I am honored by the comparison with McG.

But I've never made vile personal attacks of the nature that izzythepush makes except in self defense after such an attack has just been made against me.

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@revelette1,

revelette1 wrote:

No Comey announcing at the tail end of the election he was re-opening the case against Hillary Clinton stupid email investigation had more to with those changing their minds than anything, and then conversely not announcing they were looking into Trump ties to Russia didn't help democrats either. If you are right, then the popular vote should have reflected Hillary losing the popular vote, it did not.

Hillary was following a president with high popularity ratings and a strengthening economy. Normally in that situation she would have had an easy victory. It would not have been close enough for something like the last minute email incident to have made any difference.

It was due to the impact of the 2013 gun control debacle that the election was as close as it was instead of being a strong Hillary victory.

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@izzythepush,

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What do you mean returns? It was a nasty thread from the off

I was actually learning a lot about the two TV systems. How yours is more govt controlled and ours (save more govt controls on CONTENT) is run by and for commercial interests.

I liked when the discussion compared TV programming because I can now see where I gve too much credit for UK tv being superior OVERALL, when It too is spotty in its value.
The counter to that, that US tv is superior is, of course , silly. In order to get the very best, e need to get away from the networks and look at the HBO;s Netflixes, (nascent)Amazon and other pay perview services.

We are huge consumers of all kinds of content. Our cable services carry most services other than just US based (al Jazerra, Al Jazzera US, CBC, BBC and BBC America, Hispania,etc etc).

What we seem to be dealing with are mostly differences of maintaining accountability.

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@izzythepush,

How the "Gun law" issue even arose is more like "We went to the moon so why cant we make a good cigr" logic. The two have little to conjoin them.
McG looks a bit silly but so do you, Im sorry if saab thinks I was screaming. I thought I was trying to inject some adultery.

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@farmerman,

You - farmerman - was certainly trying to inject some adultery.
Again sorry not to have expressed myself clearly enough

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@farmerman,

Since we've got quite similar radio/tv license regulations here (even stricter than in the UK)...

Our public radioa companies aren't government controlled: they have a "parliament" (representatives of all groups of the population), which mainly is overlooking the various tv and radio programs. And a "board of directors", representing the employees, the state's parliament, and the state's government exclusively looking at the budget and similar. (Our West German Radio Broadcastcasting Cologne is one of the 9 regional public broadcasting forming the ARD (Consortium of public broadcasters in Germany), all with 54 regional and local radio stations, seven regional and about 40 sub-regional TV networks.
The ARD has four own tv and six radio programs.

The ZDF (Second German TV) has just a couple of nationwide tv programs.

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@saab,

Perhaps it was simply a misunderstanding due most likely language differences. I notice Walter puts his words differently too. On the other hand, I have been accused of English not being my first language because I put my words a certain way and I have no such excuse.

But I agree with farmer, it was sort of interesting. Personally I think we (US) pay way too much for satellite, they get ya on the bundles and contracts...

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@revelette1,

I think it was my faoult. I made a question and did not really point it in the right direction. I should have added the people I meant are screaming.
I can do that in a conversation, where I with help of hands and arms and fingers can point in the right direction.
That I cannot do here.

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There are/were also TV channels with ads Sweden.
The 31st of December 1987 an ad financed Scandinavian channel TV3 started to send programs via satellit from London.
This new channel was not liked by the socialdemokratik government and it tried several times to stop it. Amongst others by forbidding satellite dish.
Anyway many discussions followed.
I think EU had about 13 member nations at that time and only NON EU citizens had the right to have a satellite dish.
A Danish friend of mine, who lived in Sweden, loved som German music programs. For Walter - Heimatmusik -
All of sudden she could not watch them anymore . So with my help I got a lady I knew in Germany to copy the music programs and mail to her.
This Danish lady felt rather discriminated as several families in the house where she lived had a satellite dish.
1991 Sweden got TV4 and now I think those problems are all gone.
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@revelette1,

DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT BUNDLES AND CONTRACTS. When cable first reared its head in Pa, one of our governors ,Milton Shapp, made a fortune by serving the vast rural areas of the state by stepwise stellites in Williamsport, or State College ,or Bradford and opened the door for "Package Deals" on cable service.

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Omg! Why won't farmer stop screaming!?
Wink

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In any society there has to be money that is supporting the programming. The U.S.A. does it with commercial advertising. Apparently the UK does it with a usage fee. No different than paying for a rollercoaster ride or merry go-round ride. The choice of "license fee" is just a poor choice of words, perhaps.

In the U.S.A., many pay for cable tv that includes the main broadcast networks. Only those that live within some line of sight distance from a broadcast signal tower can get over-the-air reception.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

No different than paying for a rollercoaster ride or merry go-round ride. The choice of "license fee" is just a poor choice of words, perhaps.

There was talk about 15 years ago of calling it a "subscription". One problem is that subscriptions tend to be voluntary, whereas the BBC Tax or whatever you want to call it is enforced by law.

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@Foofie,

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Only those that live within some line of sight distance from a broadcast signal tower can get over-the-air reception.

you still wouldnt get cable stations without a subscription and then pay extra for HD quality.
We pay cable fees AND have to watch the dumbest commercials on the planet.

1How to make your dick bigger
2How to "increase sexual performance"> (Never knew it ws an act
3How to lose 300 pounds in a weekend and still eat all the pizza you wish
4grow tomatoes in upside down bags
5 watch even more ridiculous programs adverts

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

We pay cable fees AND have to watch the dumbest commercials on the planet.

when cable first came around I thought it would be like Europe - pay a fee and no/few/compressed commercials

no such luck

I finally cut the t.v. cord entirely

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e2pico0hcM[/youtube]

Thus really confused me. Maybe you Brits can explain what's happening here?

Those officers are rather nice, considerate and calm. If this had been in the US, his door woulda been battle rammed opened, unidentified men would storm in, shoot his dog and pregnant wife. Then they would realize after two hours they have the wrong address.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

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Only those that live within some line of sight distance from a broadcast signal tower can get over-the-air reception.
you still wouldnt get cable stations without a subscription and then pay extra for HD quality.
We pay cable fees AND have to watch the dumbest commercials on the planet.

1How to make your dick bigger
2How to "increase sexual performance"> (Never knew it ws an act
3How to lose 300 pounds in a weekend and still eat all the pizza you wish
4grow tomatoes in upside down bags
5 watch even more ridiculous programs adverts

I don't own a tv and haven't for over 15 years. But when I travel or on business trips, staying in a hotel I'll check out what's on and I notice that same sort of thing. Terrible commercials and dozens of them back to back where it's mostly commercials than show.

I'm glad I don't have a tv. Hate commercials and I don't think I have ever been convinced to buy something after seeing one.

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