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Anti-Muslim Dutch politicians in hiding after death threats

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 01:21 am
herberts wrote:
Your heart's in the right place, nim-nim, and I respect the fact that this makes you at least a half-way decent human being who has a well-developed conscience and a civilised care for the poor and downtrodden of this world.

Most kind of you.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 02:24 pm
herberts wrote:
How do you feel about that, nimh - that just down the road from you in Brussels - the most common name in the birth registry for the past three years has been 'Muhammed'... ? Hellooooooooo.... ?


That's very interesting - adding the 'Mohamed' I've found in the official data of the Directie van de Burgerlijke Stand/Direction de l'Etat civil nearly every new born boy must have this name by now Shocked
(I wonder, why they even mentioned the others?)
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herberts
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:38 pm
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I live in Brussels and the most common baby boy's name for the past five years now has been Mohammed. I think before then it was a close call between Luc, Marc and Christophe.
Posted by: DavidBruno at February 18, 2005 04:52 PM


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One quarter of Brusselians under 20 years are of 'Muslim origin', and in 2002 in the region of Brussels the most popular names given to babies were Mohammed and Sarah (Bousetta 2003:8).


http://euro-islam.info/pages/belgium.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/004557.php

http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001074.cfm

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This leaves European countries with little choice but to increase immigration to support their social welfare programs. But this choice isn't without its risks: in the Netherlands' four largest cities, the children of Islamic immigrants make up the majority of children under 14. In Brussels, the capitol of the European Union, Muhammad and Osama are the two most popular names given to baby boys.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 5 Mar, 2006 04:53 pm
Okay for your sources - but the oiffical (as printed in "La Libre Belgique" don't mention among the 100 favourite prenames e.g. no Muhammad (although 'Mohamed', but not in a position as quoted above).


They got the list from the official Directie van de Burgerlijke Stand/Direction de l'Etat.
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 01:59 am
http://www.peterborough.gov.uk/page-5437

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Mohammed tops poll of most popular boys' names
For the first time Mohammed has topped Peterborough's annual survey of most popular names for baby boys, rising from fourth position last year and overtaking Thomas, which was the top name of 2004.

Mohammed has secured the top spot because it is traditionally chosen as a first name for boys by Muslim couples, reflecting the name of the prophet who founded the faith in the seventh century.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0114/p01s04-woeu.html

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And significantly, Mohammed, with its differently spelled variants, is now the fifth most popular given name in the country, with more than 5,000 babies named for the founder of Islam last year


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4148335.stm

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Mohammed has become one of the most popular names for baby boys in England and Wales.


Walter... this does not bode well for the future survival of Western culture in a dozen European and Scandinavian societies. This can only lead to civil unrest and social disharmony on a grand scale right across the Western World.

It's only a matter of time before demographic Critical Mass will be reached with the Muslim population in Western society... and when this finally comes to pass - there will be internecine warfare and race riots of such pandemic dimensions that 9/11 will seem in retrospect to have been nothing more than a Teddy Bear's picnic.

Meanwhile have a nice day, Herr Hinteler. I'll let you get back to digging that bunker beneath the tool-shed in your backyard. Don't forget to stock up on plenty of Hasenpfeffer, Schweinshaxe, and of course, everyone's favourite - Speckpfannkuchen.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 02:13 am
And still it's written (mostly) Muhammad in (Flemish and) French, which is spoken in Brussels :wink:
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:30 am
Thanks, Walter. I'll sleep better for knowing that... http://www.clicksmilies.com/auswahl/smilie_bett.gif
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 05:11 am
herberts wrote:
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Mohammed has become one of the most popular names for baby boys in England and Wales.

Walter... this does not bode well for the future survival of Western culture in a dozen European and Scandinavian societies.

I think you lost your sense of proportion here.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 11:01 am
can Mohammed ever be a Christian name?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 11:07 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
can Mohammed ever be a Christian name?


No idea - the data from Belgium were by the state and not from a church - same here in Germany: if you agree that the name of the new born is published, it's only the gender/name and not the religious confession.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 11:11 am
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can Mohammed ever be a Christian name?

Not that I know of.

However, it might be tangentially relevant that our Muslim compatriots tend to choose the names for their children from a much narrower scope. Much like the white Dutch used to (my father is called Herman Jan, his father Jan Harmen, his grandfather Harmen Jan etc), they mostly choose names from a relatively smaller pool of traditional or family names.

I don't really know about Belgium, but in Holland this would contrast with the sometimes positively florid array of names that white (or black) Dutch parents give their children - and would make single 'Muslim' names quickly rise to the top of the charts.

Like I said, tangentially relevant. Percentage of newly born children to Muslim parents on the totality of newly born children would be a more obvious reference point than children's names.
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:11 pm
nimh-nuts...
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I think you lost your sense of proportion here.


Dear O dear, another slow-learner at the back of the class.

Who else didn't spot the anomaly... ?

Let me run it past you again...

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0114/p01s04-woeu.html

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And significantly, Mohammed, with its differently spelled variants, is now the fifth most popular given name in the country, with more than 5,000 babies named for the founder of Islam last year.



... fifth most popular. That equates to 20% of male babies born throughout the UK - despite Muslims comprising only 3.3% of the total 60,441,457 population.

Wake-up call

We in the West are sitting on a demographic Islamic time-bomb. I've already ordered my prayer-mat and I'm now taking lessons in both Sharia Law and Arabic.

http://www.omniglot.com/images/langnames/nm_arabic_alefbet.gif (translation... "Have a nice day, dudes").

Cool
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:27 pm
herberts wrote:
Dear O dear, another slow-learner at the back of the class.
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And significantly, Mohammed, with its differently spelled variants, is now the fifth most popular given name in the country, with more than 5,000 babies named for the founder of Islam last year.



... fifth most popular. equates to 20% of male babies born throughout the UK - despite Muslims comprising only 3.3% of the total 60,441,457 population.


So you are saying .... how many babies were born in Belgium resp. in the UK? Laughing
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:29 pm
herberts wrote:
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And significantly, Mohammed, with its differently spelled variants, is now the fifth most popular given name in the country, with more than 5,000 babies named for the founder of Islam last year.


... fifth most popular. That equates to 20% of male babies born throughout the UK

Ehm ... no it doesn't.

Or are you saying that, on a population of over 60 million Brits, there's only 25,000 babies born a year?

I guess education was already in a pretty bad state even before the Muslims "swamped" it ... Razz
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:32 pm
Obviously, nimh, we were both "slow-learners at the back of the class" - herberts shows as the benefits of his country's education system.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:33 pm
herberts wrote:
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And significantly, Mohammed, with its differently spelled variants, is now the fifth most popular given name in the country, with more than 5,000 babies named for the founder of Islam last year.
... fifth most popular. That equates to 20% of male babies born throughout the UK - despite Muslims comprising only 3.3% of the total 60,441,457 population.
No is doesnt. Work out 20% of male births. Its a lot more than 5000.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 03:44 pm
In Belgium, in 2002, there were 111.225 births - ratio male:female 1.04.

343.155 males were born in 2002 in the UK.

(All data from the Council of Europe's websites - the last to get online.)

Btw: more than 25% of the population living in the Brussel region are not Belgians but foreigners. :wink:
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 05:59 pm
Steve...
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No is doesnt. Work out 20% of male births. Its a lot more than 5000.


http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/eusa_wall.gif

It's nice to know someone's more dumb than I am at maths...

That's 20% of the total BIRTHS, Steve... not 20% of the entire population.

Shocked
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 06:06 pm
Walter and nimh-nuts... stop fidgetting in class and pay more attention! If you carefully re-read what I said you'll agree there are NO flaws in my statement...http://www.xtrememass.com/forum//images/smilies/1203/verkleidung089.gif

Be careful I don't have to send you two to the headmaster's office... http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/birichini/146.gif http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/birichini/146.gif
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 6 Mar, 2006 06:37 pm
herberts wrote:
http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/eusa_wall.gif

It's nice to know someone's more dumb than I am at maths...

That's 20% of the total BIRTHS, Steve... not 20% of the entire population.

Shocked

Thats what he said Herberts.

5,000 Mohammeds does not make 20% of the total births (or even male births) in the UK in one year.

Here you go, from the British Office of National Statistics:

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There were 639,721 live births registered in England and Wales in 2004

639,721 kids were born in 2004 in the UK, herberts.

Thats some 320,000 newborn live boys.

5,000 of whom were called some variation of Mohammed.

5,000 Mohammeds on a total of 320,000 boys = some one and a half percent.

Not 20%, but 1,5%.

Right? Right.

Cool smileys tho.
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