Anti-Muslim Dutch politicians in hiding after death threats

actually nimh me and sherberts the sheep shagger have a certain modus vivendi.

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I apologise nimh (do you know, as a dislexic it has taken me all of 5 minutes to correctly type out 'n-i-m-h' - for God sake just put yourself down as 'Bill' or 'Mary' or 'Freddy Middlefinger' or ANYTHING but 'blah'... !)

As I was saying, nhmi, I apologise for having trivialised this topic with a couple of flippant messages for Angel Baby to ponder over.

I've been very impressed with your posts and the commendable effort you've put into them.

Rita Verdonk has been a pin-up girl of mine ever since I discovered she had forsaken the cliches of political correctness in favour of a more realistic appraisal of what is happening to her homeland nation via the good graces of a burgeoning Muslim population.

What is happening in Holland is very much mirrored by what is happening in the neighbouring country of Belgium - where for the past 3 years the most popular name given to the newborn has been 'Muhammed' - Believe It Or Not.

Washington demographers have predicted that by around the year 2070 the majority population of Europe will be of the Muslim faith. I personally have absolutely no doubts whatsoever that Islam will predominate across the entire Western world within 150-years.

Most of this, of course, will have been achieved through the very same democratic institutions and secular instrumentalities which the Koran abhors and teaches are anathema and an abomination to those who worship Allah.

Quite ironic isn't it?

Have a nice day nmih.

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Hi Steve (as #####). nim-nim seems to be highly upset that the Dutch are finally waking up to themselves that their national homeland is fast slipping away from their grasp through the seditious mechanisms of political correctness and multicultural policy.

There are at this very moment several Dutch politicians and journalists who are under 24-hour personal protection from the murderous attentions of militant Islamists who have taken exception to their outspoken comments with regard to the inadvisability of having a growing Muslim population on Dutch soil.

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herberts wrote:

Washington demographers have predicted that by around the year 2070 the majority population of Europe will be of the Muslim faith.

Funny, I have seen variations of this claim, quoting a range of different years, but never once sourced to an actual calculation/research/whatever.

Every time I use the current %age of Muslim compared to that of past years to try to calculate it myself, I fail to get anywhere near these claims. Then again I'm no statistician.

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herberts wrote:

There are at this very moment several Dutch politicians and journalists who are under 24-hour personal protection from the murderous attentions of militant Islamists

I'm sure that the visitors to this "Anti-Muslim Dutch politicians in hiding after death threats" thread are most shocked and surprised to discover this particular bit of news, thanks to your post .. :wink:

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Oops.

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You're right nim-nim. Perhaps it's time I changed my medication to something stronger... ? When you post on a dozen forum sites it tends to get a bit confusing at times.

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On the subject of Holland, muslims and immigrants, this - I swear, my countrymen sicken me sometimes. I read it first on the site of the Dutch national public broadcaster, but I could only find two English-language articles; they say roughly the same thing tho.

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Dutch minister wants to send gay Iranian asylum-seekers back

My summary:

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2006/03/03 · Middle East Times

Dutch immigration minister Verdonk plans to send gay Iranian asylum-seekers back again. The Netherlands had granted a reprieve after reports that two homosexuals were hanged last year, but Verdonk said it was now clear that there were no "death sentences based solely on the fact that a defendant is gay", since it was never the primary charge. Iranian law imposes the death penalty for repeated sodomy, but Verdonk argued that "it is not completely impossible for gay men and women to function in Iranian society although it is important not to be to open about your sexual orientation".

See also:

Expatica: Verdonk to send gay Iranians home

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Rita Verdonk - and every other Western government minister should reject Muslim applications for refugee status upon nothing more complicated than that these are hypocritical and deceitful opportunists who are looking to improve their economic circumstance by moving to join one of their crime-ridden, welfare-dependent Islamic ghettoes in the Land of the Infidels.

There is nothing more blatantly hypocritical than Muslims leaving their Islamic homelands to go live amongst the infidel in secular democracies where there is no Sharia law... and where Western girls wear skimpy clothing, and there's music, and there's dancing, and there's alcohol, and there's gambling, and there's equal status for women, and people don't get stoned to death or hanged in public parks...

It will only take one no-nonsense, 'let's-get-on-with-the-job-of-reclaiming-our-nationhood-from-the-Muslim-invasion political leader in Europe - for all the rest to follow suit. It will take just one to give the others the courage to follow suit. And though there will be cries of outrage from certain quarters of lefty society, a great number of ordinary people will quietly acquiesce with this decision.

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herberts wrote:

There is nothing more blatantly hypocritical than Muslims leaving their Islamic homelands to go live amongst the infidel in secular democracies where there is no Sharia law...

Ehm... did you notice that the news item was about Iranian gays? I dont think Iranian homosexuals were so keen on Sharia law in the first place - they came here to escape it. And we're sending them back...

So much for solidarity in the face of the fundamentalist threat - this must be one of those great ways we're using to win allies among those from Muslim countries who would actually be eager to listen to us. Send them to an fundamentalist-ruled state where they face ostracisation at best and death at worst.

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Tripe. Middle Eastern Islamic society is awash with gay men being discreet about their sexuality and their deviant practices. They simply don't advertise themselves to the community at large.

If these two Iranian pillow-biters had simply exercised a little self-restraint and commonsense discretion none of this problem would have arised.

I'm tired of so-called Muslim 'refugees' arriving on the doorstep of Western nations declaring themselves to be fugitives from social or political injustice in their Islamic homelands. It's a farce and a fraud.

You'll notice they never knock on the door of anything around 200 Third World national embassies to ask them for acceptance as refugees fleeing for their lives.

Hell no... it's always got to be a Western nation with a highly-developed social welfare system that they'll apply to for refugee status... even if this means crossing over whole oceans at 37,000 feet in Jumbo jets to get to there...

Wake up and smell the coffee, nim-nim... you're being hoodwinked big time.

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herberts wrote:

You'll notice they never knock on the door of anything around 200 Third World national embassies to ask them for acceptance as refugees fleeing for their lives.

Ehmm, actually, the overwhelming majority of refugees and displaced persons in today's world live in third world countries. Only a small percentage gets up to here.

Relatively to the masses of refugees who end up in refugee camps in places like Kenya or Pakistan all we get is shrapnel. And those countries are poor to dirt-poor of themselves already.

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Asia hosted more than a third of all the people of concern to UNHCR, 6.9 million or 36%, followed by Africa 4.9 million (25%), Europe 4.4 million (23%), North America 853,300 (5%), Latin America 2 million (11%) and Oceania 82,400 (0.4%).

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Also from that page: in 2004 alone, some 150,000 people fled Sudan. Most of them ended up in Chad, Uganda or Kenya. Some 40,000 fled Congo. Most of them ended up in Rwanda, Burundi, Zambia and Uganda. Put together, thats a number roughly equal to the total number of asylum applications that year in the US, the UK, Germany and France added up together.

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And how many of these, having reached a first port-of-call in the country neighbouring their own - then go on to apply for visas to emigrate to a Western nation... ?

We here in Australia have for years witnessed a steady stream of Third World migrants entering Australia on immigration visas after first having sought and been granted refugee status and citizenship rights in New Zealand.

New Zealand has for yonkers been the back-doorway into Australia. It only needs that you remain in New Zealand for the mandatory 2 years before then being allowed to apply for immigration into Australia on a New Zealand passport. The vast majority of these are Asians or Pacific Islanders.

And once again, we here in Australia have in recent years embarked upon a totally insane, and incompatible, and ghetto-forming Sudanese and Somalian immigration/refugees programme towards stuffing up the demographics and the unity of this nation's predominately white, Judeo-Christian society.

Just bear in mind that Canada now has a total of 900 mosques spread out across the country - with most of these having been financed by the most Islamofascist of all Islamic states - Saudi Arabia. No strings attached to this largesse... ? And pig's might fly.

Don't worry about what the statistics are telling you, nimh - take it from me and the 6 O'Clock crime reports that we have quite enough trouble handling the Muslims who are already[/i] resident in our society - without needing any more of them to add to our ghettoes.

We have just witnessed in France an estimated 34,000 cars having been turned into smoldering wrecks by feral hordes of Muslim youths who should be shipped off to North Africa where their true identity lies.

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herberts wrote:

And how many of these, having reached a first port-of-call in the country neighbouring their own - then go on to apply for visas to emigrate to a Western nation... ?

Well, I reported the total no of refugees in the world and the total no of those who ended up in the West ... the latter is only a small part of the former, so apparently only a minority of 'em "go on to apply for visas to emigrate to a Western nation".

herberts wrote:

Don't worry about what the statistics are telling you, nimh - take it from me and the 6 O'Clock crime reports

Yeah, be damned with the facts when we have personal impressions

herberts wrote:

that we have quite enough trouble handling the Muslims who are already[/i] resident in our society - without needing any more of them to add to our ghettoes.

Yeah, let Kenya or Pakistan deal with 'em, they're obviously much better equipped to digest huge numbers of refugees.

Poor us in the richest countries of the world just cant deal with 'em, cant cope with 'em, the burden, you know, its too much! Let Zambia take it on instead, fair is fair.

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herberts wrote:

...We here in Australia...

Bloody hell I thought you were from Yorkshire.

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"We here in Australia have for years witnessed a steady stream of Third World migrants entering Australia on immigration visas after first having sought and been granted refugee status and citizenship rights in New Zealand.

New Zealand has for yonkers been the back-doorway into Australia. It only needs that you remain in New Zealand for the mandatory 2 years before then being allowed to apply for immigration into Australia on a New Zealand passport. The vast majority of these are Asians or Pacific Islanders. "

And thank heavens that tiny New Zealand has a more reasoned and humane policy than Oz, and that people are able to get here via that method, if they do.

Can you give figures for your "steady streams" please, and differentiate them from the large numbers of long tine New Zealanders who laso live here?

"And once again, we here in Australia have in recent years embarked upon a totally insane, and incompatible, and ghetto-forming Sudanese and Somalian immigration/refugees programme towards stuffing up the demographics and the unity of this nation's predominately white, Judeo-Christian society." "

Speak for yourself.

Thank heavens we ARE letting in so many of these ravaged, tortured and traumatised people. Ever heard any of their stories? Might pay to seek them out and ask them about their lives.

As for Judaeo/Christian...again speak for yourself.

Oh, figures please, and sources, on your alleged Muslim crime wave on the six o'clock news.

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hehe... look at them crawl out of the woodwork the moment some heat is applied... !!

ninny...

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Yeah, let Kenya or Pakistan deal with 'em, they're obviously much better equipped to digest huge numbers of refugees.

Poor us in the richest countries of the world just cant deal with 'em, cant cope with 'em, the burden, you know, its too much! Let Zambia take it on instead, fair is fair.

Wow! Such moral outrage! Such petulant rancor! Your heart's in the right place, nim-nim, and I respect the fact that this makes you at least a half-way decent human being who has a well-developed conscience and a civilised care for the poor and downtrodden of this world.

You've got a good heart, nimh... and now it's time to start developing your brain. Take your time - you've obviously got a long job ahead of you.

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How many people do you want to drag into the life-boat before it sinks? How many Western people's homelands must be made bedlams of inter-racial and inter-cultural and inter-religious mayhem before those such as you will cry 'Enough!' to immigration and the fraudulent 'refugees' bandwagons... ?

Western nations have absolutely no moral obligation whatsoever to make themselves an endless human repository for those fleeing their failed societies in the Third World.

It's quite sufficient that billions in foreign aid is each year ripped off the Western nation tax-payers for the purpose of funding yet more criminal negligence and corruption amongst the politicians of the Third World nations.

Western nations have every right to preserve and defend their hard-earned privileges and wealthy life-style against these being ruined and jeopardised by an endless stream of immigrants and refugees whose alien religions and pre-medieval mindsets will ensure the development of crime-ridden ghettoes of the type we see in France and the UK.

It's only a damned fool who wants to flood his own ancestral homeland with hordes of alien people whose cultural and religious mindset are hostile to and incompatible with his own.

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How do you feel about that, nimh - that just down the road from you in Brussels - the most common name in the birth registry for the past three years has been 'Muhammed'... ? Hellooooooooo.... ?

Doesn't that ring any alarm bells with you... ?

I mean, considering that these are a people whose entire social, cultural, religious and political philosophy are in total contradiction to our own liberal, secular, democratic and Western way of life... doesn't that strike you as being perhaps just a teeny-weeny bit unnerving for the future preservation of Western society... ?

900 mosques spread out across Canada... etc etc etc... Several thousand mullahs and imams across the western world preaching to their congregation the multitudinous evils of Western society...

Try to stay awake to the grim realities behind all the PC window-dressing and the bullshyte sermonising from the leftwing trendies who want to bring Western society crashing to its knees.

You can borrow my alarm clock, nim-nim... Laughing

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Steve...

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Bloody hell I thought you were from Yorkshire.

Huh?

I'm an English migrant to Australia... originally from North Devon. My primary loyalties now lie with Australia, of course.

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(I mean, fair dinkum mate - how the hell is it that a nation of some 60 million Poms cannot produce even one one ONE[/i] solitary sporting individual who is of world Olympic class? Dear O dear O dear... )

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Ah...one notes just more meaningless ranting, and no facts to back them up.

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