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The NEXT coming Oz election thread!

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 02:06 am
Australia has lost its moral compass under Howard's rule
Paul Keating
November 22, 2007/the AGE


THE principal reason the public should take the opportunity to kill off the Howard Government has less to do with broken promises on interest rates ?- or even its draconian WorkChoices industrial laws ?- and everything to do with restoring a moral basis to our public life.

Without this, the nation has no standard to rely upon, no claim that can be believed, not even when the grave step of going to war is being considered. When truth is up for grabs, everything is up for grabs.

Cynicism and deceitfulness have been the defining characteristics of John Howard and his Government. They were brazen enough to oversee the corruption of a UN welfare program. And when they were found out, not one of them accepted ministerial responsibility. Not Downer, not Vaile and certainly not Howard. What they were doing was letting the cockies get their wheat sold through the AWB while turning a blind eye to the AWB's unscrupulous behaviour ?- illegally funding a regime Howard was arguing was so bad it had to be changed by force.

John Howard took us into the disastrous Gulf war on the back of two lies. One, that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, capable of threatening the Middle East and Western Europe; the other, that Howard was judiciously weighing whether to commit Australian forces against an evolving situation. We now know he had committed our forces to the Americans all along.

If the Prime Minister cannot be believed, who in the system is to be believed?

When opposition leader in 1995, Howard told us he would restore trust in government, when at that time trust in government was not in question. He also told us he would make us more "relaxed and comfortable". Well, some relaxation and some comfort. These days, there are many parts of the world where Australians dare not go, something new for all of us.

But bad as all this is, how much worse was it for John Howard to begin the fracturing of his own community?

Think about his tacit endorsement of Hanson's racism during his first government, his WASP-divined jihad against refugees ?- those wretched individuals who had enough faith in us to try to reach us in old tubs, while his wicked detention policy was presided over by that other psalm singer, Philip Ruddock. This is the John Howard the press gallery in Canberra went out of its way to sell to the public during 1995. The new-made person on immigration, not the old suburban, picket-fence racist of the 1980s, no, the enlightened unifier who now accepted Australia's ethnic diversity; the opposition leader who was going to maintain Keating Labor's social policies on industrial relations, on superannuation at 15%, on reconciliation, on native title, and on the unique labour market programs for the unemployed.

These solemn commitments by Howard, which helped him win the 1996 election, bit the dust under that breathtaking blanket of hypocrisy he labelled "non-core promises". Even on Medicare, contrary to his commitment, he forced each of us into private health or carry the consequences.

During the 1996 election campaign, a number of people I regard well said to me, "Oh, I think Howard will be all right"; meaning, while not progressive, he would not be reactionary or socially divisive, or opportunistically amoral. Well, Howard wasn't "all right". He has turned out to be the most divisive prime minister in Australia's history. Not simply a conservative maintaining the status quo, but a militant reactionary bent on turning the clock back against social inclusion, co-operation in the workplace, the alignment of our foreign policies towards Asia, providing a truthful and honourable basis for our reconciliation, accepting the notion that all prime ministers since Menzies had ?- Holt, Gorton, McMahon, Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke and me ?- that our ethnic diversity had made us better and stronger and that the nation's leitmotif was tolerance.

Howard has trodden those values into the ground. He also trod on the reasonable constitutional progression to an Australian republic, even when the proposal I championed had everything about it that the Liberal Party could accept: a president appointed by both houses of parliament (meaning by both major parties), while leaving the reserve powers with the new head of state.

The price of Howard conniving in its defeat will probably mean we will ultimately end up with an elected head of state, completely changing the representative nature of power, of the prime ministership and of the cabinet.

To compound Howard's transgressions, he has run dead on the continuing obligation of structural economic change, just as he did when he was treasurer in the 1970s. He and Costello have simply made hay while the sun has shone from the great structural reforms introduced by the Hawke and Keating governments. Those changes ?- open financial and product markets, and the new decentralised wages system of 1993 ?- were married up with $1 trillion in superannuation savings, to completely underwrite the country's prosperity and renew its economic base.

Howard's sole example of reform is his GST ?- the one he told us in 1996 he would not give us, a regressive tax on all spending regardless of income.

Nations get a chance to change course every now and then. When things become errant, a wise country adjusts its direction. It understands that it is being granted an appointment with history. On this coming Saturday, this country should take that opportunity by driving a stake through the dark heart of Howard's reactionary Government.

Paul Keating was prime minister of Australia from 1991 to 1996.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/australia-has-lost-its-moral-compass-under-howards-rule/2007/11/21/1195321862029.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 03:51 am
Voting is compulsory

http://www.able2know.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2955163#2955163
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 07:02 am
You think that a change of govt will restore our moral basis?

It is my opinion that govt's encourage people to sue each other for vast sums of money....this breeds fear of helping others, for fear of being sued. It breeds fear of anyone not your friend in any hazardous situation...it makes people suspicious...suspicious people are easier to lie to, and are easier to control. It breaks down peoples sense of community, and individuals are easier to sway and control than is a community.

They appear to encourage civil liberties (which should properly be known as individual rights) at the expense of community rights, further breaking down societies sense of community.

It is my opinion that when govt's teach children their 'rights' in school, they give children enough information to know that there are boundaries to be challenged but not enough information to keep them out of trouble when challenging those boundaries. The teaching of rights give them a great sense of individuality, without the necessary complimentary sense of community and responsibility to the community.

...anyway, you get the idea...

...it is my opinion that important parts of the moral compass remain purposefully broken by govt.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 07:25 am
vikorr wrote:
You think that a change of govt will restore our moral basis?


I think that much that we valued in this country, such as a tolerance, compassion & "a fair go" has been severely undermined during the past 11 years.

No, I don't believe that decency can necessarily be "restored" simply by the installation of another government. But I want to see the last of the government that was responsible for systematically undermining integrity & fairness in this country. That's a start.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 07:55 am
Too close to call: latest poll
November 23, 2007 - 4:24PM/SMH

The Coalition believes it is coming home with a wet sail after a second poll has shown it could win tomorrow's election.

The Newspoll, released today, finds Labor's lead has been hacked back in the final week and it is now leading by 52 per cent to 48 per cent.

Labor scored 47 of the two-party vote at the last election and needs a swing of almost 5 per cent to net the 16 seats it needs to form government.
This would require a minimum result of 52 per cent.

Consequently, if the Newspoll is correct, tomorrow's result is too close to call.

John Howard, campaigning through Queensland today, said he sensed victory..........


The Labor leader Kevin Rudd said again today that whoever won the election would do so only by a nose.

A Galaxy Poll published in today's News Ltd tabloids showed the same result as Newspoll.

The Herald/Nielsen poll published today found that, as of Wednesday night, Labor led the Coalition in the primary vote by 48 per cent to 40 per cent.

Depending on how preferences were allocated, this gave Labor a two-party-preferred figure of between 55 per cent and 57 per cent, enough for an emphatic win if replicated tomorrow.

The four Herald polls conducted during the campaign have canvassed 6138 voters and show on average Labor leading by 55 per cent to 45 percent, a swing of almost 8 percentage points since the 2004 election.

With AAP

http://www.smh.com.au/news/federal-election-2007-news/too-close-to-call-latest-poll/2007/11/23/1195753279860.html
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:00 am
...Erm, MsOlga

24 hours? (nothing to do with Tulsa). Or is that just pertaining to advertising.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:02 am
dadpad wrote:
...Erm, MsOlga

24 hours? (nothing to do with Tulsa). Or is that just pertaining to advertising.


Sorry, please explain, dadpad.

It's late & I'm kinda confused. :wink:
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:07 am
I thought there was a moratorium on electioneering 24 hours prior to elections. Ijust thought your informative cutting and pasting may be contravening the rules

It may be applicable only to advertising though.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:10 am
dadpad wrote:
I thought there was a moratorium on electioneering 24 hours prior to elections. Ijust thought your informative cutting and pasting may be contravening the rules

It may be applicable only to advertising though.


Are you kidding, dadpad?

I mean the papers responsible for the articles are still posting them ....
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:14 am
... & there are still political ads. Like this ALP one on the front page of the Australian:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:18 am
Ah! advertising not allowed
From a 2006 article

Victorian politicians find election advertising loophole
PM - Thursday, 23 November , 2006 21:13:22
Reporter: Samantha Donovan
MARK COLVIN: With the Victorian election less than two days away, the black-out on campaign advertising started in that state last night.

But Victorian political parties have found a way around the federal legislation that bans TV and radio advertising from the Wednesday night before an election.

They're taking to the web and running their ads on the video website YouTube.

It may be one loophole legislators can't close.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:23 am
I notice that the AGE & the SMH don't appear to have any ads on their sites anymore. Thank god! The barrage of crude Lib scare ads on the SMH site was mind boggling! Shocked
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:26 am
However there were Ads in todays morning paper. I better shut up until I find the proper rules.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:30 am
.... & the Hun is still at it!:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 08:35 am
OK. Bed time. (1:35 am)

Night night!

And don't forget to vote, willya!
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 04:24 pm
Quote:
No, I don't believe that decency can necessarily be "restored" simply by the installation of another government. But I want to see the last of the government that was responsible for systematically undermining integrity & fairness in this country. That's a start.


Fair enough :wink:
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dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 04:29 pm
Overture
light the lights.
This is it,
the night of nights.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 04:36 pm
I have actually been following this, but without comment. Rudd, I think, will win. But that is just my guess.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 04:46 pm
Stinking Howard has had a late surge, hasn't he?


I can't stand it.
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Nov, 2007 04:55 pm
dlowan wrote:
Stinking Howard has had a late surge, hasn't he?


I can't stand it.


That makes two of us.
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