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The NEXT coming Oz election thread!

 
 
bungie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 02:16 pm
I sit and watch the leader of our country on tv.
I sit and watch him in total disbelief.
Is this man for real ?
He intents to remain in power no matter how low he has to stoop
and no matter how much taxpayer's money it costs.
Grovel grovel grovel ..... enough to make you sick.
Bring on the election !!!!!!
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Wilso
 
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Reply Fri 12 Oct, 2007 11:48 pm
hingehead wrote:
Well? Someone say it! Howard must think we're stupid, and I'm afraid he might be right.

Referendum on the mentioning of aborigines in the constitutional preamble. Puh-leez.

He should adopt the campaign slogan 'Vote for me now and I might do something decent in ten years time'.

He has such a good record with referendums - he always gets his way (remember the republic).

And to say that he was a product of the time he grew up in. F uc k me roan!!!! What kind of statesman can't rise above his callow bigotry? I know a ton of people of his vintage (and often with less-priviledged upbringings) who marched for reconciliation and revile Howard's refusal to acknowledge how white australia treated this country's original inhabitants.

Better a black armband than a white blindfold.

What a ****.


Pretty typical Howard. Spend millions on a referendum that won't contribute the betterment of Aboriginal lives, and falls a long way short of an apology.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:13 am
hingehead wrote:
Well? Someone say it! Howard must think we're stupid, and I'm afraid he might be right.quote]

Yes, he thinks we're stupid. Always did.

But I'm afraid that you're wrong in thinking that he's right in this case. :wink:

Everyone can see through this pathetic, desperate 11th hour conversion to almost decency! Howard would join a union right now if he could hold hang on to power!
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:19 am
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:25 am
... in a nutshell, desperate & ruthless & willing to do or say absolutely anything to retain power.

Stay tuned for the ugliest real campaign (as opposed to the "phoney" one that that's been going on since Rudd became ALP leader). Hey, anything goes. Absolutely anything!
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:38 am
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 12:51 am
... but just say JH gets the chop in the election (which I suspect he will, though probably it will be closer than the polls have been telling us till now), we're going to have to contend with a more painful problem.:

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/10/10/CARTOON_gallery__470x329.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 01:30 am
Desperate times
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/10/12/rg_spooner_wideweb__470x281,2.jpg
Illustration: Spooner

October 13, 2007/the AGE


Reconciliation and the death penalty. These issues drove John Howard and Kevin Rudd to frantic manoeuvres, writes Shaun Carney.

..... Kevin Rudd in a sheer fit of panic at the prospect of losing the so-called battler vote that WorkChoices has returned to Labor and John Howard as part of a slowly unfolding paroxysm of existential horror brought on by consistently bad opinion polls.


......Let's face it: Howard's conversion is hard to believe. That's not to suggest that it's all bull. It might be sincere and deeply felt. But everything we've seen and heard of the Prime Minister, from his first act as the nation's leader back in 1996, which was to hack into ATSIC, to his out-of-nowhere pledge on reconciliation in his victory speech in 1998, which went nowhere, to his always enthusiastic and heartfelt repudiation of the "black armband" view of Australian history, encourages scepticism.

It is not being unfair to the Prime Minister to be so sceptical; it is a tribute. He was the one who campaigned against symbols and in favour of practical reconciliation. He led the argument. Most Australians, I suspect, were either convinced or were never interested. The rest, who wanted something else when it came to indigenous affairs, had given up on this Government on the issue. Now, the Prime Minister says it's time to get interested in it again.

And yet, when he was interviewed at length by Neil Mitchell on 3AW yesterday morning, he settled pretty quickly back into the old culture wars tropes: an apology would be a terrible thing ("I have always supported reconciliation, but not of the apologetic, shame-laden, guilt-ridden type," he said); the best way to help indigenous people was to incorporate them into "the mainstream of the community".


.......Changing your ways and shifting your opinions isn't always a positive, as we saw with Kevin Rudd. Clearly, the long waiting period for the campaign playbooks, which both major parties finalised some time ago, to go into action, have made Rudd edgy. He overreacted to Monday night's speech on Labor's capital punishment policy stance by foreign affairs shadow minister Robert McClelland.......

Faced with a rabid tabloid media, still-grieving relatives and a Government that has no compunction in portraying Labor as a friend to the Bali bombers, Rudd chose not to stare them all down. Instead, he publicly upbraided McClelland, McClelland's staff and his own staff, and said he hated terrorists. He seemed to suggest that Labor would not make great efforts to argue against the death penalty for terrorists. Make no mistake, he was saying this because he was terrified of losing the blue-collar voters who've voted for Howard at the past two elections but who have been prised free because of WorkChoices. There's a lot of research to show that these voters favour capital punishment for terrorists.

But on the death penalty, there can be no halfway houses; you're either for it or you're not.Rudd's response raised legitimate questions about how pragmatic, and not in a good way, he would be if he becomes prime minister
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 01:52 am
... & Michelle Grattan on the choice between Howard & Rudd..:

Voters' choice: short-term incumbent or the mystery package
October 12, 2007

The John Howard v Kevin Rudd battle is a product of these times, writes Michelle Grattan.

ULTIMATELY all modern elections are about leadership, and in those terms this is a very unusual contest.

I don't recall any other modern federal election in which most of the prime minister's cabinet collectively indicated, very close to the poll, that they thought their leader should stand down.On the other side is a leader who came, less than a year ago, from almost nowhere, at least as far as the public is concerned.

"Who is Kevin Rudd?" is the question the Government is trying to get up
, not unreasonably, because we know very little about him except that he's middle of the road to conservative in views, savvy to brilliant in tactics, and has a "whatever it takes" (within limits) approach to wresting the top job.

We saw an example of the last this week when Rudd recalibrated Labor's death penalty policy because foreign affairs spokesman Robert McClelland's articulation of it caused a problem.

On Wednesday night education spokesman Stephen Smith put out comments agreeing with the PM's policy for the compulsory teaching of Australian history before the stories about the policy had had time to appear in yesterday's newspapers.

But the me-tooism is worrying too. If Rudd is agreeing with what he thinks is bad policy, it means that he would be stuck with that policy (unless he broke promises here, there and everywhere) and also that he is not confident or strong enough to argue what he thinks is a better line.

So the choice for voters on a day yet to be announced but probably in the latter half of November will be between a short-term incumbent colleagues would have shrugged off, and a mystery package wrapped so tightly that it's hard to be absolutely sure what's inside.

Take your pick, but it is not entirely satisfactory, from the voters' point of view. ...<cont>

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/voters-choice-shortterm-incumbent-or-the-mystery-package/2007/10/11/1191696078237.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 02:07 am
Will he do it this weekend?

Will he bite the bullet?

...take the bull by the horns?

Will he?

Well, will he?

Getting ridiculous, isn't it?Laughing :


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200708/r169989_637195.jpg

PM, Rudd campaign as polling day speculation mounts
Posted 5 hours 49 minutes ago
Updated 5 hours 43 minutes ago


Prime Minister John Howard and federal Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd are both campaigning in Sydney amid speculation Mr Howard will set an election date this weekend.

The Governor-General's return to Canberra has heightened speculation the Prime Minister will end the faux election campaign but this morning he has been showing no signs of a trip to the nation's capital.

Mr Howard is campaigning in his own electorate, promising funding for local stormwater harvesting.

Meanwhile, Kevin Rudd is continuing his pursuit of the Government over advertising, while pledging $50 million for a Sydney cancer centre if Labor wins the election.

"I'd rather the nation spend its money on this than on wasting it on taxpayer funded politics," he said.

If Mr Howard does pay a visit to the Governor-General this weekend, he is widely tipped to ask for Parliament to be dissolved for an election on November 17 or 24.

http://www.abc.com.au/news/stories/2007/10/13/2058731.htm
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:14 pm
By golly, he did it!!!!! Surprised

Finally, finally, finally ......!

I'm so grateful for the $1 million per day we're saving now that those bloody ads are out! :wink: Very Happy


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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:20 pm
You don't believe me? Think I'm making this up? :wink:

Here's proof!:


http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/howardleavesgovernmenthouse_wideweb__470x285,2.jpg
Prime Minister John Howard leaves Government House.
Photo: Glen Mccurtayne


....."Love me or loathe me the Australian people know where I stand on all the major issues of importance," Mr Howard said, urging voters to look to his eleven years in the top job as they considered him for another term. ..."

PM names poll date:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/federalelection2007/pm-names-poll-date/2007/10/14/1192300577676.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:32 pm
OK, now expect to hear the following many, many times over the next 6 weeks!:

Rudd is inexperienced. He'll ruin the economy!

Rudd is is revolting! He has a secret agenda! (If only! :wink: Sad )

Julia is the slave of the unions! (Haha!)

You want a clean sweep? - Labor holding holding all state Labor seats AND the federal government as well? Dangerous, dangerous!

Plus a few other choice "revelations" if things don't start improving for the Libs very quickly.

Plus maybe a few more appeals to our patriotism (More Africans Overboard?Rolling Eyes) & maybe the odd scary thing or two, if necessary ....

Fasten your seatbelts, folks!

Here we go!
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:45 pm
JH's odds? What the bookies say.:

Johnny on the nose, Kev by a long neck
October 14, 2007/Sunday AGE

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/10/13/BetStarElection_narrowweb__300x345,0.jpg
Alan Eskander of BetStar at Caulield races with todays odds for both the federal election and Caulfield Cup.
Photo: Craig Sillitoe


....

There is no chance, say the experts, that Mr Howard will emulate the electrifying performance of the new spring sensation, Weekend Hussler, which ran away with the feature race. ....


Mr Howard has long been trailing with both pollsters and bookies. Betstar's Alan Eskander took a $30,000 bet on Mr Rudd at $1.60 last month, while Sportingbet has him at $1.45 to Mr Howard's $2.75. Betstar has taken more than $100,000 in election wagers already and expects that to grow fourfold by late next month. "Betting on the election is a big sport," Mr Eskander said. "And obviously Rudd is the clear favourite. "... <cont.>

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/10/13/1191696241332.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 09:49 pm
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Wilso
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2007 11:04 pm
Thank god. If Australians have the slightest brain in their heads, we'll only have 6 more weeks of putrid little piece of scum, and then maybe we'll finally be able to put the most sorry period of Australian history behind us.
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bungie
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 12:48 pm
QUOTE

Of all the contrivances for cheating the labouring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money." Daniel Webster

END QUOTE

WORKCHOICES can be added to that quote.

What I really want to see is bonzai lose his own seat
as a result of PEOPLECHOICES .
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bungie
 
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Reply Sun 14 Oct, 2007 12:51 pm
http://www.nicholsoncartoons.com.au/cartoons/new/2007-10-12%20Howard%20referendum%20on%20aborigines%20226.jpg

Nicholson of "The Australian" newspaper: www.nicholsoncartoons.com.au
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 03:59 am
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 15 Oct, 2007 04:02 am
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