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Mon 3 Feb, 2003 06:06 pm
Listening to Pacifica Radio on my way home today, I caught part of a conversation in which it was charged that the budget to NASA was cut, leaving them short funded just so the military could step in and fund missions on the condition that all flights be dual in nature - NASA business and the military's business. The man, whose name I did not get, said that every shuttle flight has carried military payload. He said that is why people in the search for the shuttle pieces right now have to use gieger counters on people who may have been exposed - nuclear material on board. He was describing a death star being built up there. Do any of you able2ers have a source that will address the issue?
Not I. Even I think that this death star is very unlikely.
This is right up there on the probability list with another rumour floating around that the Russians shot down Columbia Saturday morning.
If there was radioactive material floating around do you really think they'd be leaving these bits and pieces sitting in hundreds of people's front yards? Even if they didn't care about the people's health, the gig would be up as soon as the first piece showed up as radioactive.
I've been as guilty as others at various times in wanting to believe the worst about the US government. But this just sounds like some environmental kook who is against space exploration.
I came across some interesting websites on the matter. Here is a sampling:
govt documentsAmerican militarizationspurring or deterring
good links; we all should check the
Disclosure Project interviews as well.
please order a cdrom/dvd, or if you want to preview it, it can be found on edonkey and kazaa.
very important info and highly significant for the world we are in now.
um just a bit of info as my late brother was an aerospace engineer, there are plutonium devices on the shuttle that have no military function. so it is possible to find radioactivity.
Since lab experiments were performed in the shuttle, it's a good bet that the radioactivity was from the isotopes used in the experiments. Most likely, C-14. No great harm. Also suspect some Ca label too for some of the bone density studies.
I am not being an alarmist about what fell to earth from the shuttle mishap. My primary focus is on the military's use of space.
Just another in a long list of shall we call it conspiracy theories. There are always people who want to believe the worst about the US government and will generate scenarios to prove it. .
Why would the military want crystallized proteins?
edgarblythe wrote:I am not being an alarmist about what fell to earth from the shuttle mishap. My primary focus is on the military's use of space.
Which as of yet no one has established as a fact in this discussion.
I am curious to know what specific reservations you have about "the military's use of space". Clearly they have spy satellites, and we all benefit from the GPS satellites they funded and put in place. What specific things do you not want the military to do in space?
Thanks in advance for a courteous, thoughtful reply.
Trespassers will be murdered - oops, I mean, merely shot - If you say there is no militarization of space going on, the discussion ends right here. If you are trying to ferret out a hidden agenda - Wrong, dude. I began the thread because I wanted information from others, not to preach. So have ya got anything?
edgarblythe wrote:Trespassers will be murdered - oops, I mean, merely shot - If you say there is no militarization of space going on, the discussion ends right here. If you are trying to ferret out a hidden agenda - Wrong, dude. I began the thread because I wanted information from others, not to preach. So have ya got anything?
Yes, I have a question. It is printed above. I asked it because I genuinely wish to explore what your reservations are here. I'm not looking for a hidden agenda, nor do I have one of my own. I asked what I asked because I want to know what you are thinking. Sorry that you couldn't just consider my question and respond.
I detect an edge to your questions. I don't care to expound on the subject until I feel I have enough information.
Total spectrum dominance. He who holds the high ground, commands the battle. Its all about America's global projection of power. There will be war soon over this between China and the USA.
edgarblythe wrote:I detect an edge to your questions. I don't care to expound on the subject until I feel I have enough information.
That is certainly your right. I can only tell you that I am not laying a trap or doing anything but attempting to explore this issue with you. I respect your right to abstain, without animosity, and hope you will consider sharing more of your thoughts whenever you are comfortable doing so.
I have to run out to a meeting right now, but perhaps later or tomorrow I will offer some thoughts about what limits I would like to see. Maybe that will get the ball rolling.
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