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"Right Wing" activist judges

 
 
Baldimo
 
Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 10:36 am
Does any one have an example of an activist right wing Judge making controversial rulings? Does one even exist? With the SC looking to retire one or more judges in the next few years are there any judges from the right side of the aisle that have made unfair or non-constitutional rulings?
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Einherjar
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 11:05 am
Bush 2000 :wink:
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 11:13 am
Einherjar wrote:
Bush 2000 :wink:


Making the state of Florida follow its own election rules is not being "activist".

Please try harder.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 11:41 am
Maybe you could give us an example of judicial activism and we could go from there.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 11:50 am
I think of plenty of them but they are all from the other side, and not relevant to the current topic.

I guess if no one can come up with one then it doesn't exist and there is no such thing as a right wing activist judge. I'm sure they might have some views that would be considered as such but none of their rulings would be.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 11:56 am
One from the other side will do. Just an example of judicial activism, so I know what to look for.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 11:57 am
California judges ruling on prop 187.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 12:04 pm
Ok, I'm reading up on it. What part makes it activism?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 12:06 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Ok, I'm reading up on it. What part makes it activism?


Over turned the will of the people for the will of a few ideologues.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 12:14 pm
So you're saying the ruling was not based on law?
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 12:19 pm
In any case, here's one that looks similar to the one you sited.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1642642.stm
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 12:37 pm
Re: "Right Wing" activist judges
Baldimo wrote:
Does any one have an example of an activist right wing Judge making controversial rulings? Does one even exist? With the SC looking to retire one or more judges in the next few years are there any judges from the right side of the aisle that have made unfair or non-constitutional rulings?

I have quite a few examples of judges whom I consider to be right-wing "activists," but I suspect that my notion of "activist" may not be the same as yours, Baldimo. Rather than waste my time in guessing what your criteria for "activism" might be, why don't you just explain what you're looking for. Once I know what you mean by "activist," I'll be better able to answer your question.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 01:43 pm
Joe, it looks like our work is done here.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 02:56 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Joe, it looks like our work is done here.

If only that were true.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 04:25 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
In any case, here's one that looks similar to the one you sited.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1642642.stm


While I agree that is wasn't good for Ashcroft to make such a ruling, because he was subverting the will of the people, I'm looking judges not politicians. Plus he was going off a decision made by another govt agency. I would think that Reno was being the activist in this case, because she over ruled another agency.

I happen to support assisted suicide. I don't have an issue with it as long as it can be proven that the person that wants to die is indeed doing it of their own volition. I sure know I wouldn't want to suffer as such.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 04:46 pm
No, what he is saying is that he didn't like the ruling. For much of the right these day's that's activism enough.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 04:50 pm
Baldimo wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
In any case, here's one that looks similar to the one you sited.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1642642.stm


While I agree that is wasn't good for Ashcroft to make such a ruling, because he was subverting the will of the people, I'm looking judges not politicians. Plus he was going off a decision made by another govt agency. I would think that Reno was being the activist in this case, because she over ruled another agency.

I happen to support assisted suicide. I don't have an issue with it as long as it can be proven that the person that wants to die is indeed doing it of their own volition. I sure know I wouldn't want to suffer as such.


I think it did actually go on to get overturned by the courts, but I'll double check. In any case Baldimo, even in the ruling you cited, judges can't just make stuff up. That decision, which wasn't a complete overturning btw, just an overturning of the parts pertaining to the feds, was based on a federal ruling out of Texas. I have a hard time believing that there are liberal activist judges in Texas.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 05:07 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
In any case, here's one that looks similar to the one you sited.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1642642.stm


While I agree that is wasn't good for Ashcroft to make such a ruling, because he was subverting the will of the people, I'm looking judges not politicians. Plus he was going off a decision made by another govt agency. I would think that Reno was being the activist in this case, because she over ruled another agency.

I happen to support assisted suicide. I don't have an issue with it as long as it can be proven that the person that wants to die is indeed doing it of their own volition. I sure know I wouldn't want to suffer as such.


I think it did actually go on to get overturned by the courts, but I'll double check. In any case Baldimo, even in the ruling you cited, judges can't just make stuff up. That decision, which wasn't a complete overturning btw, just an overturning of the parts pertaining to the feds, was based on a federal ruling out of Texas. I have a hard time believing that there are liberal activist judges in Texas.


Here's the problem though. When Davis was elected Governor he didn't even allow it to go through to an appeals court. He killed it and it went no further. It was stated that if Davis hadn't killed it then it would have won on appeals. I see this as a working together of judges and politicians that doesn't benefit the people.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 05:14 pm
What do you mean he killed it. You mean he stopped appealing the decision. That sounds like an activist politician then. Maybe he stopped it because the ruling was sound and it would have cost tax payer dollars to keep fighting it. If the ruling was sound, then it isn't an example of an 'activist judge' case.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 28 Oct, 2004 06:31 pm
This is the Gov Davis we are talking about. The same guy who signed into law, the ability for illegals to have valid CA drivers licenses. I see collusion on the part of the courts and the politician. Activist judge and an activist politician.

I would like to get back on topic if we could please. This is the reason I didn't want to bring up what I have seen the left doing, I wanted examples from the right and I haven't seen any yet.

Could it be that there is no such thing as a right wing extremist judge? Do they follow the letter of the law and not make law from the bench? It is going to be a borning speech if I only have one side to talk about.
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