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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 03:19 pm
Source: Favre forces Packers' hand, files for reinstatement
Chris Mortensen wrote:
Consider the Packers backed up against their own goal line.

Brett Favre followed through on his statements that he wanted to come out of retirement by faxing his reinstatement letter to the NFL on Tuesday, a source close to the quarterback told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Favre's actions now force Packers general manager Ted Thompson to make a decision. Favre told Mortensen on Sunday that the GM had pleaded with the quarterback not to show up at camp on Sunday, so that the situation could be resolved.

"I asked Ted [Saturday], 'Am I welcome in the building if I report?' And Ted was just about shattered," Favre said. "He said, 'Brett, you can't do that -- you'll get me fired.' I told him I'm not trying to get anybody fired. So Ted asked me to let the guys report and let's try to resolve this over the next two or three days."

With no concrete movement in the past few days, Favre made his move. The Packers have publicly committed to Favre's backup from last season, Aaron Rodgers, however.

Favre has offered to compete for the starting job in training camp, but he said in Sunday's interview that he was told that is not an option.

"It's pretty clear -- and this is what I told the commissioner -- that they want me to go away, stay retired," Favre said.

The Packers have also looked into trading their former franchise quarterback, but nothing tangible has happened on that front either.

Favre retired in March after 16 season in the league as the all-time leader in touchdown passes with 442.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3509944

[size=29]Go Pack Go![/size]
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2008 03:26 pm
Oh my goodness.

How is this going to end? What do you think, Bill?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2008 07:22 pm
Sorry, missed this...
sozobe wrote:
Oh my goodness.

How is this going to end? What do you think, Bill?
Probably in a trade for a third round draft pick to Tampa. Sad

Fingers still crossed no one comes for him and he backs up Aaron until McCarthy figures out how ridiculous that is. He should have reported this weekend and said publicly that all he wants is a chance to compete for his job. He's managing the public very poorly, and the cynics in Green Bay are not really very behind him for it. Crying or Very sad
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 04:26 pm
Shocked [size=29]Return of the King?[/size]

ESPN wrote:

[size=29]NFL grants Favre reinstatement; sources say QB job is open[/size]
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Brett Favre will be reinstated and added to the Packers' active roster Monday. And at that point, it looks like the fun will start.

Team president Mark Murphy said in a statement Sunday that the team has a specific plan with Favre in camp that it won't reveal until Monday, but sources told ESPN's Wendi Nix that coach Mike McCarthy will announce he's holding an open competition for the starting quarterback position.

Favre's reinstatement, announced by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Sunday, will become effective at 1 p.m. ET Monday. His first practice will likely come Tuesday.

"Brett will be in camp tomorrow. Although there has been uncertainty regarding Brett's return, Ted Thompson and Coach McCarthy had previously discussed this and have had a plan in place," Murphy said in the statement. "Coach McCarthy will talk to the team and the quarterbacks about the plan moving forward, and after he has done that we will share it publicly.


Mark Murphy's Statement

Sixteen years after Brett Favre came to the Packers, he is returning for a 17th season. He has had a great career with our organization and although we built this year around the assumption that Brett meant what he said about retiring, Brett is coming back. We will welcome him back and turn this situation to our advantage.


Frankly, Brett's change of mind put us in a very difficult spot. We now will revise many actions and assumptions about our long-term future, all predicated on Brett's decision last March to retire. As a result of his decision, we invested considerably in a new and different future without Brett and we were obviously moving in that direction. That's why this wasn't easy. Having crossed the Rubicon once when Brett decided to retire, it's very difficult to reorient our plans and cross it again in the opposite direction -- but we'll put this to our advantage.

Brett will be in camp tomorrow. Although there has been uncertainty regarding Brett's return, Ted Thompson and Coach McCarthy had previously discussed this and have had a plan in place. Coach McCarthy will talk to the team and the quarterbacks about the plan moving forward, and after he has done that we will share it publicly.

No matter what, I look forward to another successful season for the Packers and our fans. This has been a tough situation, but the Packers will make the most of it.
Goodell had held off on granting Favre's request for reinstatement for nearly a week. He hoped Favre and the team could resolve their standoff. By reinstating Favre, Goodell is following through on a recent promise to force action.

Earlier Sunday, Favre's agent, James "Bus" Cook, confirmed that Favre planned to fly to Green Bay on Sunday and report to the Packers on Monday.

"That's the plan," Cook said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Packers officials planned to greet Favre upon his arrival to Green Bay.

Favre does not plan to attend the sold-out Packers Family Night at Lambeau Field, which more than 60,000 fans were expected to attend.

Favre's imminent presence in training camp could cause a major disruption to the team and sets up scenarios of either a competition with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job or the Packers continuing to work on finding a trade partner for the former league MVP and Super Bowl champion.

Favre retired in March but has been having second thoughts for weeks. Team officials have maintained that if Favre returned to the Packers, it would be in some role other than as the starter -- and have said Rodgers is their starter.

Publicly, team officials have ruled out releasing Favre, likely for fear he would sign with division-rival Minnesota.

Goodell told the NFL Network on Saturday that he thinks the situation has lingered long enough.

"I think we have to force it," Goodell said. "I think it's come to the point where there needs to be some decisions made on behalf of the Packers, on behalf of Brett, on behalf of all the fans."

OMG... Shocked

[size=29]Go Packers![/size]
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 04:40 pm
Just saw that.



Hmmm.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 08:48 am
I don't like it. Not good for the team, considering all that's been done (including draft picks) to preapre for a future without him.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 09:58 am
I LOVE it. And after Aaron's sub-par performance in last night's scrimmage (like 37% against our B team); the buzz is that Brett will have his job by opening day. Fingers way crossed.

[size=29]Go Packers![/size]
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 10:15 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
I LOVE it. And after Aaron's sub-par performance in last night's scrimmage (like 37% against our B team); the buzz is that Brett will have his job by opening day. Fingers way crossed.

[size=29]Go Packers![/size]


So, let's say Rodgers has a typical first-time starting QB year. Let's say one equivalent to Brett's first year--choc full o' interceptions. We still have a QB developing as a leader with an equally young team. But we also have, in two or three years, a legitimate Super Bowl contender for years to come.

The scenario I see with Brett at the helm is a Hall of Fame QB clearly still capabale of being one of the best in the league. Yet one who admitted his heart is not still in the game. And if his off-season antics aren't proof of that, what is? There is a chance we'll get a performance from him similar to last year's. Then again, there is a chance we'll get a performance similar to the one two years ago. What's certain is, in a blustery game at Soldier Field, or in the playoofs, his inner "waffler" will be a liability.

And Rodgers will be damaged goods with every reason to mistrust Packers management.

Brett's bad for Green Bat at this point, any way you slice it.

Fingers crossed.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 10:31 am
Gargamel wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
I LOVE it. And after Aaron's sub-par performance in last night's scrimmage (like 37% against our B team); the buzz is that Brett will have his job by opening day. Fingers way crossed.

[size=29]Go Packers![/size]


So, let's say Rodgers has a typical first-time starting QB year. Let's say one equivalent to Brett's first year--choc full o' interceptions. We still have a QB developing as a leader with an equally young team. But we also have, in two or three years, a legitimate Super Bowl contender for years to come.

The scenario I see with Brett at the helm is a Hall of Fame QB clearly still capabale of being one of the best in the league. Yet one who admitted his heart is not still in the game. And if his off-season antics aren't proof of that, what is? There is a chance we'll get a performance from him similar to last year's. Then again, there is a chance we'll get a performance similar to the one two years ago. What's certain is, in a blustery game at Soldier Field, or in the playoofs, his inner "waffler" will be a liability.

And Rodgers will be damaged goods with every reason to mistrust Packers management.

Brett's bad for Green Bat at this point, any way you slice it.

Fingers crossed.
Confused Dude, that's just so much nonsense.
A. If Aaron is damaged by backing up last year's runner up for MVP, possibly the greatest ever to play the game; that is a problem with Aaron. Steve Young, one of the greatest ever, sat 6 years in waiting in similar circumstances. Further; Aaron is as of yet unproven. I want him to be the next guy for years to come too; but I'm sure not in a hurry to bench the legend, the winningest quarterback of all time, on the outside chance he might be. That's just crazy.

B. Brett has said all along that he wouldn't play if his heart wasn't in it 100%. That's why he retired... because he didn't know if it would be and management was understandably anxious to know. His decision to come back is evidence that his heart is in it 100%. Want proof? They were going to pay him the $25,000,000 remaining on his contract to NOT play, and he turned it down. What more proof could you possibly ask for?

[size=29]Go Packers![/size]
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 11:52 am
Do you really think Rodgers is going to want to play for the Packers long-term after suffering the greatest blue-balling--wherein McCarthy announces publicly that he's the man--in NFL history (not to mention Packer fans booing him at the abovementioned game)? Then we wait another 3 or more years to develop a competent QB.

They don't grow on trees. Here in Chicago, good QBs are as fantastical as unicorns. No one believes they exist.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 12:06 pm
Gargamel wrote:
Do you really think Rodgers is going to want to play for the Packers long-term after suffering the greatest blue-balling--wherein McCarthy announces publicly that he's the man--in NFL history? Then we wait another 3 or more years to develop a competent QB.

They don't grow on trees. Here in Chicago, good QBs are as fantastical as unicorns. No one believes they exist.
Well... that's certainly understandable in Chicago (full stop.)

Rogers track record doesn't make him a competent QB in the NFL. It makes him worthy of a shot to compete for a starting job and whether it be this year, next or the one after that; I think he will be both thrilled and grateful for any opportunity to start he is given, by GB or pretty much anyone else. Were it not for Thompson's irrational desire to move on from Brett; there is no legitimate reason Rogers should have been promised the spot before camp in the first place. Said promise; I see as the same type of confidence building focus-factor as is always used in the NFL. A starting guarantee means you're guaranteed to start, right up until someone better is available to take your place. It isn't personal... as evidenced by GB's business-like treatment of the greatest QB who ever played the game.

No question; those are some awfully sore blue balls, though. Laughing And they may be about to be kicked on top of it. Shocked
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 12:10 pm
>watching this thread for an appearance by gustavratzenhofer<
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 07:25 pm
Heads up! Mike McCarthy is about to speak... live on packers.com about the QB situation.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 07:41 pm
What a jip. There not done talking yet, so it's postponed till tomorrow.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 4 Aug, 2008 07:42 pm
I can't cite a site - but I remember reading that Brett changed his mind again and back again after the biggo retirement in March. I get his resentments, but I take him as an s/absorbent jerk. Alternately, I think the Packs should have let him play elsewhere. Jerks too. Aside from thoughtful consideration, consider the gate, or the nut, or whatever you call it. Plus, they're screwing Rodgers - whom I admit we don't know re potential and I suppose that happens every day of the week. So maybe not just Rodgers, but the whole team rethinking thing.

But I'm not a present cheesehead, only an olden days Pack fan.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 11:40 am
Not good...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3520064
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patiodog
 
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Reply Tue 5 Aug, 2008 05:13 pm
As far as I'm concerned, both parties (Favre and Packers management) have been behaving like spoiled children.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:11 pm
Crying or Very sad Brett Favre has left Green Bay. Crying or Very sad
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:17 pm
To Tampa??

I'm not finding confirmation, but I AM on the flippin prairie...
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 6 Aug, 2008 12:21 pm
Hattiesburg for now... but my Tampa for a third rounder is looking like a pretty fair speculation. Sad
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