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The Physics of 911

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2017 11:56 pm
@maxdancona,
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I don't have a very good opinion of Australians right now


Excellent to know that. Pricks like yourself still get to have an opinion, unfortunately.

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particularly their treatment of Muslim refugees


Dutton and Turnbull aren't representative of Australians, any more than Trump or Clinton are of Americans. White-collar criminals, hocking our valuables for personal gain.

We could also discuss how these refugees came to exist, but that would challenge your belief system, that the US of A is actually doing some good in the middle east, as opposed to reality, but you don't like to go there often.

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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2017 12:31 am
@maxdancona,
Yes, some Australians are downright evil, and there are many termites in Australia. But what would they stand to gain?
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Glennn
 
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Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2017 07:00 am
@maxdancona,
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I am not suggesting the video is lying. I am suggesting that you are making stuff up.

I didn't make up the video. It shows the rate at which the upper block dropped. The rate at which the upper block dropped was forty feet shy of freefall.
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It is absurd that you can divine all of this "physics" from a YouTube video.

All of this physics? Sorry, but anyone can place a straightedge horizontally across the screen and line it up with the top of the building and then count the seconds it takes for the 360 feet of antenna to pass the marker. That speaks for itself, unless you care to suggest that the video is a mirage, which wouldn't surprise me given your attempt to convince readers that it was a grainy video when it obviously is not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
30 second mark, and 1:12 mark.
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It is amusing, but no one is taking you seriously who wasn't already a believer.

Says the person who argued for page after page after page without knowing anything about the core structure. The extent of your understanding of the core structure is that it can detach and drop away. Nuff said?
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Tue 2 May, 2017 05:39 am
Maybe the French did it. You know how they are... They can't be trusted. Smile
camlok
 
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Reply Fri 26 May, 2017 02:14 pm
@Olivier5,
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Maybe the French did it. You know how they are... They can't be trusted.


We know that you can't be trusted, Olivier. Is farmerman also French? How about Baldimo, McGentrix, georgeob1, ... ?
Glennn
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2017 07:39 am
@camlok,
Another interesting and observable fact is that people who deny the visual evidence as seen in the video I provided above will gather in other threads where their denial can be expressed without having to address an observable fact.
camlok
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2017 12:57 pm
@Glennn,
Yes, Glennn, in the land of the free and the home of the brave, procedures are put in place to place those who only seek the truth into veritable leper colonies.

And the "free" and the "brave", in complete and total defiance of all they pretend to hold dear, actively support this suppression of science, evidence, discussion.

It is truly puzzling, it is the greatest conundrum, the greatest of mysteries, a totally unexplainable phenomenon.
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camlok
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2017 01:59 pm
More impossible USGOCT 911 physics.

"Growing Evidence Missiles Used in 9/11 Attack on Twin Towers"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbwQM_4i5ok

Skip to the one minute mark for the impossible physics.


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camlok
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2017 08:48 pm
FDNY Scott Schrimpe shows molten steel souvenirs from WTC1.

September 11th melted steel is NOT myth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=Vczx8ETKg-g

Builder
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2017 10:46 pm
@camlok,
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September 11th melted steel is NOT myth


The myth, is that jet fuel can melt steel beams to a liquid form.

Not simply undermine the strength of the core structure, but to liquify it.
camlok
 
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Reply Sun 28 May, 2017 11:05 pm
@Builder,
True, Builder. The US Government Official Conspiracy Theory is full of terribly wacky notions which makes it so damn odd that any believe in it.

Testament to the power of US propaganda turning US minds into mush.
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camlok
 
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Reply Mon 29 May, 2017 12:58 pm
@centrox,
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Structural steel loses 75 percent of its strength at 21 C (70 F), when heated to 600 C (1100 F)


Why didn't the Windsor Tower, which was totally engulfed in flames, collapse, Centrox?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4MjsVnasLA

Why hasn't any steel framed office tower ever collapsed before or since 911?

Why didn't the UK Cardington test office building collapse?

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camlok
 
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Reply Mon 29 May, 2017 01:04 pm
@farmerman,
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The studies Ive seen disclosed a varying temperature of the fire (due to jetting) of over 2400 F


But you, a scientist, thinks it is unimportant to source such a claim. Really, farmerman?
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camlok
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 09:07 pm
@oralloy,
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The trusses under each floor were designed to hold up a static (unmoving) load consisting of the weight of that single floor.

False, they were designed to hold live loads and dead loads.

The trusses under each floor were not designed to hold the weight of the entire building above them.

That is a totally inconsequential red herring.

And they were definitely not designed to support the weight of the entire building above them striking them as a dynamic (moving) load.

Another nonsensical red herring.

You can actually hear the impact of the floors slamming into each other, slowly at first and then faster and faster. It sounds at first like semi-auto gunshots, then like a machine gun, and then like a gatling gun.


That is the bombs going off. The bombs described by many eyewitnesses by over 118 firemen.

Here are some firemen describing the secondary explosions.

9/11 FireFighters - THREE Explosions After Plane Hit WTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYlEVCpG_0

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Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 14 Feb, 2018 09:29 pm
@oralloy,
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The center of the World Trade Center (where all the elevator shafts were) had a dense cluster of vertical steel beams (much like the beams surrounding the exterior of the building).

Really? The beams making up the core structure were much like the beams making up the perimeter columns?
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camlok
 
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Reply Thu 15 Feb, 2018 12:29 pm
@maxdancona,
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You aren't even willing to say that the secret military non-thermite that some conspiracy theorists talk about can do this.


Max, are you outright lying or are you really this ignorant of the science and events of 911.

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https://str.llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.html

Nanoscale Chemistry Yields Better Explosives

ONE thousand years ago, black powder was prepared by grinding saltpeter, charcoal, and sulfur together into a coarse powder using a mortar and pestle. Since then, the equipment for making energetic materials-explosives, propellants, and pyrotechnics-has evolved considerably, but the basic process for making these materials has remained the same. That, however, is changing, thanks to an explosive combination of sol-gel chemistry and modern-day energetic materials research.
At Livermore Laboratory, sol-gel chemistry-the same process used to make aerogels or "frozen smoke" (see S&TR, November/December 1995)—has been the key to creating energetic materials with improved, exceptional, or entirely new properties. This energetic materials breakthrough was engineered by Randy Simpson, director of the Energetic Materials Center; synthetic chemists Tom Tillotson, Alex Gash, and Joe Satcher; and physicist Lawrence Hrubesh.

These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods."



Energy Density vs Power, the Traditional Tradeoffs
Energetic materials are substances that store energy chemically. For instance, oxygen, by itself, is not an energetic material, and neither is fuel such as gasoline. But a combination of oxygen and fuel is.

Energetic materials are made in two ways. The first is by physically mixing solid oxidizers and fuels, a process that, in its basics, has remained virtually unchanged for centuries. Such a process results in a composite energetic material such as black powder. The second process involves creating a monomolecular energetic material, such as TNT, in which each molecule contains an oxidizing component and a fuel component. For the composites, the total energy can be much greater than that of monomolecular materials. However, the rate at which this energy is released is relatively slow when compared to the release rate of monomolecular materials. Monomolecular materials such as TNT work fast and thus have greater power than composites, but they have only moderate energy densities-commonly half those of composites. "Greater energy densities versus greater power—that's been the traditional trade-off," says Simpson. "With our new process, however, we're mixing at molecular scales, using grains the size of tens to hundreds of molecules. That can give us the best of both worlds-higher energy densities and high power as well."


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camlok
 
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Reply Fri 24 Aug, 2018 03:55 pm
@oralloy,
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The trusses under each floor were designed to hold up a static (unmoving) load consisting of the weight of that single floor.


False.

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The trusses under each floor were not designed to hold the weight of the entire building above them.


No one has ever suggested this kind of nonsense.

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And they were definitely not designed to support the weight of the entire building above them striking them as a dynamic (moving) load.


Your description, which illustrates you know little to nothing of building design, is not remotely close to the actual conditions

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As each subsequent floor had the entire weight of the building slam into it, that floor's attachments to the core beams simply snapped off.


Stunning ignorance or a gigantic lie. I'd say the former.
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camlok
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2018 05:22 pm
@maxdancona,
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Your key argument is based on dubious claim that you are making with no real reason behind it.

You are making up the "fact" that one structure is "passing through" another structure. You are stating this as fact without based on what you see in the video. I don't see it, sorry. As you know I did analyze it carefully at your request and came up with the conclusion that the antenna in question is accelerating at a slower rate than the normal acceleration of gravity.

You assert that this is "science" (it isn't). It is just something you made up. I have looked at the video carefully several times and nothing their[sic] changed my mind.


Nothing can change your mind, max, because you are totally wedded to the USGOCT even though it has zero evidence to support it.

You are totally willing to argue inane minutiae until the cows come home so as to avoid addressing all the impossibilities of the USGOCT.

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The Missing Jolt:
A Simple Refutation of the NIST-Bazant Collapse Hypothesis
Graeme MacQueen
Tony Szamboti
April 22, 2009*
In its Final Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers, the National Institute of
Standards and Technology summarizes its three year study and outlines its explanation of the
total collapse of WTC 1 and WTC 2. [1]
Readers of the report will find that the roughly $20 million expended on this effort have resulted
in an explanation of the total collapse of these buildings that is so vague it barely qualifies as a
hypothesis. But it does have one crucial feature of a hypothesis: it is, in principle, falsifiable. In
fact, it is easy to demonstrate that it is false.

In this paper we will, concentrating on the North Tower, offer a refutation that is:
• easy to understand but reasonably precise
• capable of being stated briefly
• verifiable by any reader with average computer skills and a grasp of simple mathematics.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/TheMissingJolt7.pdf


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camlok
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2018 05:32 pm
@maxdancona,
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You are making the claim that one structure is "passing through another structure". That sounds like magic to me.


Not magic, but you know this, max. It's simply the building being blown up with a US planned US carried out controlled demolition.

Again, you know this full well. The nanothermite did not magically get into WTC dust, nor was it brought by hijackers.

The molten/vaporized WTC structural steel also wasn't hijacker magic, it was the US planned US carried out controlled demolition.

This explains it all, max.

North Tower Exploding by David Chandler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc
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camlok
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2018 05:50 pm
@Olivier5,
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Of course the beams offered some resistance. Upto a point they certainly did. So when a joker says "offered no resistance to speak of", he is just lying. Glenn was not on site measuring the girders resistance as temperature rose. He speaks out of his ass.


I can see your butt cheeks flapping rapidly, Olivier.

A Scottish engineer actually did the calculations and this is what he found.

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Where's your Evidence?

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If the upper storeys were suddenly allowed to fall through a vacuum of the same depth of the tower height, they would reach bottom in about 9.5 seconds. If allowed to fall through a vat of custard of the same height they would take about 20 seconds to cover the same distance. The largest estimate of collapse duration that I have found is about 16 seconds. Although this estimate does not bear examination, we can use it to say that the resistance offered by the steel structure below the collapse front lies somewhere between absolutely nothing and custard. What is the official explanation for the sudden and complete transformation of hundreds of thousands of tonnes of steel to a state which does not even rival confectionery?

http://gordonssite.tripod.com/id6.html


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