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The Physics of 911

 
 
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 07:54 am
@Glennn,
You want me to calculate the energy balance throughout the fall of the towers? That would require a supercomputer or two and a team of dedicated scientists working for a year or two.

I can only guess that the results may indicate the core's solidity had been weakened. Possibly by the heat of the inferno above. Iron is a good conductor of heat. The steel pillars must have conducted the heat to many floors below, weakening the steel's resistance well below the impact level.
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 07:58 am
@Olivier5,
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It's the same link I gave.

You really need to pay attention here. My link is not the same one you posted.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/nyregion/rebutting-claim-tarnished-valor-research-challenges-account-9-11-looting.html

probably also second-hand . . . probably exaggerated . . . might have seen . . . Maybe copper from wires . . . maybe some iron here or there. You'll forgive me if I take eyewitness accounts rather than your suppositions.
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cement would have melt too.

Perhaps you should check out the artifact referred to as the Meteorite.
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:00 am
@Olivier5,
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Human beings are physical, last time I checked

That has nothing to do with the physics of 9/11.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:06 am
@Glennn,
YOU need to pay attention. These two links are exactly the same:

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/nyregion/rebutting-claim-tarnished-valor-research-challenges-account-9-11-looting.html
given in my post
https://able2know.org/topic/369947-33#post-6386065

and

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/nyregion/rebutting-claim-tarnished-valor-research-challenges-account-9-11-looting.html
given in your post
https://able2know.org/topic/369947-33#post-6386119
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:08 am
@Olivier5,
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I can only guess . . .

No, don't guess. In your own words, explain why you believe that the entire core structure below the impact zone offered virtually no more resistance to the collapse than air. If your answer is that the fire at the impact zone heated up all of the steel in the core structure below it enough to cause it to just give way without any resistance, I'll accept that as your answer.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:08 am
WHAT? A meteorite now? Is that what brought down the twin towers?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:10 am
@Glennn,
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If your answer is that the fire at the impact zone heated up all of the steel in the core structure below it enough to cause it to just give way without much resistance, I'll accept that as your answer.

Yes, that's my best possible answer. Don't take my word for it...
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:14 am
@Olivier5,
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YOU need to pay attention. These two links are exactly the same:

Sorry, I pulled from the wrong post.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:16 am
@Glennn,
You're looking at another post of mine, about a different subject. Try and concentrate.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:18 am
@Olivier5,
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WHAT? A meteorite now? Is that what brought down the twin towers?

You've never heard of the Meteorite? Perhaps you should google Meteorite 911.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:21 am
@Glennn,
I won't make your work for you. Google it up yourself. I can wait a bit for the truckload of insanities you're about to unload.
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:21 am
@Olivier5,
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Yes, that's my best possible answer. Don't take my word for it

I don't take your word for it. I'm off to town for supplies. When I return, we'll get into the physics of the collapse, and see if a non resisting core structure should have offered substantial and continual resistance.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 08:29 am
@Olivier5,
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Google it up yourself.

Okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUttWGGVcOk
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 09:01 am
@Glennn,
That stuff wasn't created by super high heat. You can see plenty of unmolten metalic pieces in it. They even found not totally burnt paper in it:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/nasathermalimages/public/images/24912513.jpg

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/hanger17/meteor3.jpg
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 10:44 am
@Olivier5,
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That stuff wasn't created by super high heat.

Are you denying that there is melted steel in that stuff??
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 11:07 am
@Glennn,
I would have to inspect it.
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 11:14 am
@Olivier5,
I called the 911 Museum about a year ago. I told them that I'd heard that the Meteorite had only molten aluminum in it. They assured me that it contained molten steel. Do you think that they are mistaken?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 11:55 am
@Glennn,
Well, they would not be the first human beings to be wrong. Any pictures? Scientific analysis? Any indication of the AMOUNT of melt? A few grams, kg, or tons? It's not the same thing.
Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 11:59 am
@Olivier5,
So that's a yes, then. You believe that they're mistaken. Why do you believe that they would be mistaken or lying? I wonder why, in all this time, someone has corrected them and set the record straight??

Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2017 12:06 pm
@Glennn,
Why don't you ask them for a scientific analysis of the "meteorite"?

That is in any case the only way to convincingly answer the question. Staff emails don't constitute evidence. How do you know it's not an intern who cooked up your response? Ask for evidence.
 

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