The myth of the disenfranchised

Dookiestix wrote:

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How are they being "scared" into vtoing for Bush? I'm not dirt poor and will be voting for Bush. Please don't tell me that the media is doing it, I don't think that we have ever had a media be more left leaning in the history of the US.

Hee hee, that's hysterical. Try telling that to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, The Savage Nation, Ann Coulter, Faux news, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, John McLaughlin, Sinclair Broadcasting Group, etc., etc., etc)

If you are saying that CNN is right wing I have some ocean front real estate in Tennesee for sale.

cannistershot wrote:

Dookiestix wrote:

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How are they being "scared" into vtoing for Bush? I'm not dirt poor and will be voting for Bush. Please don't tell me that the media is doing it, I don't think that we have ever had a media be more left leaning in the history of the US.

Hee hee, that's hysterical. Try telling that to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, The Savage Nation, Ann Coulter, Faux news, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, John McLaughlin, Sinclair Broadcasting Group, etc., etc., etc)

If you are saying that CNN is right wing I have some ocean front real estate in Tennesee for sale.

Not too long ago on the Democratic Underground site some were arguing that NPR was majorly right wing.

Not too long ago on the Democratic Underground site some were arguing that NPR was majorly right wing.

I see. When Republicans use scare tactics, it's legimate. When Democrats use it, they're scare tactics.

GOD that hysterical!!!

cannistershot wrote:

Dookiestix wrote:

Quote:

How are they being "scared" into vtoing for Bush? I'm not dirt poor and will be voting for Bush. Please don't tell me that the media is doing it, I don't think that we have ever had a media be more left leaning in the history of the US.

Hee hee, that's hysterical. Try telling that to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, The Savage Nation, Ann Coulter, Faux news, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, John McLaughlin, Sinclair Broadcasting Group, etc., etc., etc)

If you are saying that CNN is right wing I have some ocean front real estate in Tennesee for sale.

Why does the NPR continue to be funded by taxpayer money? Everyone knows they are left wing. I guess it would be like pulling tax-free status from Jesse (con artist) Jackson. It would be seen as an evil tactic by the "right wing fascist govt".

Brand X wrote:

cannistershot wrote:

Dookiestix wrote:

Quote:

How are they being "scared" into vtoing for Bush? I'm not dirt poor and will be voting for Bush. Please don't tell me that the media is doing it, I don't think that we have ever had a media be more left leaning in the history of the US.

Hee hee, that's hysterical. Try telling that to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, The Savage Nation, Ann Coulter, Faux news, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, John McLaughlin, Sinclair Broadcasting Group, etc., etc., etc)

If you are saying that CNN is right wing I have some ocean front real estate in Tennesee for sale.

Why does the NPR continue to be funded by taxpayer money? Everyone knows they are left wing. I guess it would be like pulling tax-free status from Jesse (con artist) Jackson. It would be seen as an evil tactic by the "right wing fascist govt".

I think NPR puts enough broad appeal programming on to keep the heat off in that regard, plus they get a lot of private donations, example Mrs. Kroc of McDonalds restaurant fame gave NPR $200 million last year.

I like NPR and listen to it nearly every day.

Because the people who paid into it expect that type of programming that the offer.

Why is it that Sinclair Broadcasting Group had to renige considerably on their programming smear campaign of John Kerry when their stockholders and advertisers began threatening them in a BIG way?

Wake up!

Brand X wrote:

cannistershot wrote:

Dookiestix wrote:

Quote:

How are they being "scared" into vtoing for Bush? I'm not dirt poor and will be voting for Bush. Please don't tell me that the media is doing it, I don't think that we have ever had a media be more left leaning in the history of the US.

Hee hee, that's hysterical. Try telling that to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, The Savage Nation, Ann Coulter, Faux news, CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, John McLaughlin, Sinclair Broadcasting Group, etc., etc., etc)

If you are saying that CNN is right wing I have some ocean front real estate in Tennesee for sale.

I allow the liberals that work for me to listen to NPR during the day so that they will work, I now boycott every company that donates money to the shows on that network. It is as far to the left as my left finger tips!

Why does the NPR continue to be funded by taxpayer money? Everyone knows they are left wing. I guess it would be like pulling tax-free status from Jesse (con artist) Jackson. It would be seen as an evil tactic by the "right wing fascist govt".

revel wrote:

I think this election has made everyone sick of talking about it.

In the mornings I torture myself still further and listen to a supposed kerry supporter trash every single word that comes out of Kerry's mouth and say, "but you know I am kerry's guy."
That sounds like my kind of news, what channel is this. I only see liberal media (except Fox news)

Imus in the morning.

Anyway those are just my impressions and opinions I realize that those on the other side will see it all differently.

The poor as dirt remark has to do with Bush being so pro company instead of for the workers as more poorer are workers instead of company or however I should phrase it. You know trying to limit over time pay and not raising minimum wage and things like that.

Kerry's remark about the draft is really very simple. Those that are in the national gard did not sign up to serve for long stretches of time like the military yet they are made to serve the same or more than the military so they are what he calls back door draft and if bush stays in office we can expect more of the same. For that matter I am not sure what Kerry can really do about it now that we are in Iraq for the duration. That is not scare tactics that is simply the facts.

On the other hand, Bush and Cheney give the impression that a vote for Kerry is to invite the terrorist to bomb us again. Which is entirely different and a lot more sinister because if a terrorist does bomb us after Kerry is elected then people will think, "gee they were right."

Another thing they do is to say that if we vote for Kerry then we are going to be like Spain and give the terrorist what they want. It is those kinds of tactics that we mean we say scare tactics.

Love it. Cannistershot really does not see how right of centre the American media is. Fascinating to watch from outside the U.S. This must be what is was like watching Germany.

Kerry's remark about the draft is really very simple. **REVEL**
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Simple? Or outright lie?


Those that are in the national guard did not sign up to serve for long stretches of time like the military yet they are made to serve the same or more than the military so they are what he calls back door draft and if bush stays in office we can expect more of the same. ****REVEL***

Certain MOS's in the military are actually critical, be it National Guard or not. When you sign on the dotted line you actually do know what you are up for. Back Door draft? NO. You signed up to do a job, you accept the benefits that come with it as well as the paycheck. You are actually bound to complete 8 years even if you sign up for 2. Mission FIRST always. IF for some reason you do not want to do that, its simple.... don't SIGN UP, DONT COLLECT THE PAYCHECKS, DONT ACCEPT THE COLLEGE MONEY, DONT ACCEPT THE BONUSES, AND DONT ACCEPT THE VA LOANS. Nothing is ever free, you got your money, benefits, home loans and now dont want to live up to your commitments. Back door draft isnt accurate in the least.

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That is not scare tactics that is simply the facts
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It is indeed scare tactics and not fact based at all, go look at an enlistment contract sometime.

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yet they are made to serve the same or more than the military ***REVEL***
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LOL really Revel? The National Guard is made to serve more or longer than the active duty soldier? Have you been in the National Guard and Active Duty? I have and let me tell you the truth of that.
Active duty serves 365 days a year, at the beck and call 24 hours a day. 30 day FTX's, work days of 0500-1800, many weekends, many nights, 24 hour duties. National Guard 2 weekends a month hours 0900-1600, and 2 weeks a year. 14 days normally in a fixed facility training center. They do that for years, get paid, get benefits, no overtime for free. Uniforms providedby their units. Now when called to duty they dont want to do what they promised...
The Active Duty on the other hand spends well over 500 a year out of pocket for uniform replacement and upkeep.

I dont know.... I may be wrong... I was only in the military 12 years.....

Love it. Cannistershot really does not see how right of centre the American media is. Fascinating to watch from outside the U.S. This must be what is was like watching Germany.

And don't the "active duty" people still get clothing allowances?