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The Netherlands set up global safe abortion fund to counter Trump cuts

 
 
Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 09:00 am
The Netherlands' Government announced the fund to compensate for US ban on abortion funding.

The Dutch Government has held preliminary discussions on the initiative with other European Union members who have responded positively, a foreign ministry spokesman said.

Governments outside the EU, companies and social institutions will also be approached to participate.

Source (in Dutch)

Dutch news (in English)
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 09:15 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

The Netherlands' Government announced the fund to compensate for US ban on abortion funding.

The Dutch Government has held preliminary discussions on the initiative with other European Union members who have responded positively, a foreign ministry spokesman said.

Governments outside the EU, companies and social institutions will also be approached to participate.

Source (in Dutch)

Dutch news (in English)


So, Dutch Land is going to fly pregnant American women to their country and give them abortions and all the pot they can smoke and then send them home?
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 09:27 am
@McGentrix,
Why the snarky attitude? This measure is not being taken to provide services for women in the USA. The focus is on women who live in under-developed countries where reproductive health services aren't as easy to access. There was nothing about providing anyone with cannabis — how did you come up with that far-fetched notion?
blatham
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 09:36 am
@hightor,
Quote:
how did you come up with that far-fetched notion?

I think there's a couple of things here he doesn't understand.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 09:48 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
So, Dutch Land is going to fly pregnant American women to their country and give them abortions and all the pot they can smoke and then send them home?
It's 'The Netherlands', and perhaps you read my text or - even better - the English source before replying?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 09:58 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Why the snarky attitude? This measure is not being taken to provide services for women in the USA. The focus is on women who live in under-developed countries where reproductive health services aren't as easy to access. There was nothing about providing anyone with cannabis — how did you come up with that far-fetched notion?


*shrug*

I know what the focus is on, Trump signing an executive order blocking foreign aid or federal funding for international nongovernmental organizations that provide or "promote" abortions.

It's good to see others step up. Marijuana use is legal in the Netherlands.

I swear to god you guys have no sense of humor. Especially Walter. He is like Drax in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:01 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Marijuana use is legal in the Netherlands.
Not at all - only the the possession of a maximum amount of five grams cannabis for personal use is not prosecuted (keyword: "gedoogbeleid")
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:08 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Marijuana use is legal in the Netherlands.
Not at all - only the the possession of a maximum amount of five grams cannabis for personal use is not prosecuted.


See? That's what Drax would say despite the fact that coffee shops in Amsterdam can sell it all day long.

Quote:
Cannabis has been available for recreational use in coffee shops since 1976. Cannabis products are only sold openly in certain local "coffeeshops" and possession of up to 5 grams for personal use is decriminalised
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:16 am
@McGentrix,
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I swear to god you guys have no sense of humor.


Um, did you ever consider the possibility that your juvenile responses aren't even remotely amusing?
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:22 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Um, did you ever consider the possibility that your juvenile responses aren't even remotely amusing?


Nope. I'm pretty sure that you lack a sense of humor.
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:36 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
I'm pretty sure that you lack a sense of humor.


Well, if no one appreciates your scintillating wit here why persist in pathetic attempts to amuse such an unappreciative audience? Frankly, I don't even think you really consider yourself all that funny. You just like to play the role an edgy twit who makes up for his lack of insight by posting tiresome one-liners that fall wide of the mark, polishing your credentials as one who need not be taken seriously.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:37 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
... despite the fact that coffee shops in Amsterdam can sell it all day long.

As Walter Hinteler wrote:
(keyword: "gedoogbeleid")
(Here: the selling of cannabis is "illegal, but not punishable".)
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:42 am
@hightor,
Dang, did I kick your cat and not know about it? Do me a favor, click my username and then under my icon press that "IGNORE USER" button. That way your refined sensibilities won't have to wade through my adolescent posts.

Then go see a doctor about getting that stick out of your ass.
McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:44 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
... despite the fact that coffee shops in Amsterdam can sell it all day long.

As Walter Hinteler wrote:
(keyword: "gedoogbeleid")
(Here: the selling of cannabis is "illegal, but not punishable".)


Ok I read more about it and you are correct.
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:48 am
@McGentrix,
Why should I do you any favors? You kicked my cat, for god's sake!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 10:52 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
Ok I read more about it and you are correct.
My knowledge of Dutch (criminal) law is just university of applied science level (hogeschool), and I'm not reallyfluent in Netherlands either - but drug law in the Netherlands isn't related at all to the topic here.

Quote:
Up to 20 countries have indicated support for the Netherlands’ plan to set up an international safe abortion fund to plug a $600m funding gap caused by Donald Trump’s reinstatement of the “global gag rule”, the Dutch international development minister, Lilianne Ploumen, said on Wednesday.

Ploumen took soundings from a number of her colleagues around the world on Tuesday evening after the Netherlands said it would act to mitigate the impact on hundreds of charities around the world.
[...]
Ploumen admitted that replacing the $600m that Trump has pulled from family planning services was a tall order, but added: ‘You should never compromise on your aims from the outset. Six hundred million dollars is a very ambitious target but we’re committed to it.’
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Blickers
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 11:14 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Geez, I knew America might come down in the world's estimation but I didn't expect this. Holland is giving foreign aid to American women to get Constitutionally protected birth control.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 11:22 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Holland is giving foreign aid to American women to get Constitutionally protected birth control.
How did you get that? It's about the "global gag rule" aka Mexico City policy.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 11:45 am
@McGentrix,
You don't understand anything do you? This wasn't ever about American women, it's about American medical charities using abortion abroad.

Being ignorant is a prerequisite for voting Trump.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2017 11:47 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:
I swear to god you guys have no sense of humor.


Not only a sense of humour, but a sense of irony. Claiming something is a joke after you've been found out is the sort of thing schoolboys do.
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