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What I can do to Reduce the Effect of Climate Change in the Future

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 01:04 pm
@farmerman,
One need only visit places like Beijing in the winter to see the effects of human influence on climate change.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 01:08 pm
@farmerman,
For those who deny climate change.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/world/asia/china-trump-climate-change.html
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 01:21 pm
@saab,
If you want to reduce how an ever changing climate effects you, consider making your home / apartment more impervious to changes in the weather. This will make you more comfortable during weather extremes, and possibly reduce your monthly bills for heating & cooling. An airlock entryway is an excellent way to keep your personal climate under control.

If you rely on a motorized vehicle for personal transportation / work, consider a larger more powerful vehicle with AWD or 4WD, these vehicles tend to keep you safe, and get you home no matter what.

Growing some of what you eat in a greenhouse year round is another way to reduce the effect of an ever changing climate.

I hope that helps.
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chai2
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 01:31 pm
@farmerman,
Yes you make sense farmer.

I know I'm not explaining myself very well. I feel it myself.

You realize you're fortunate in that you can pursue what you love, as long as you want.

There is just this big disconnect in so many peoples work, the results they don't even get to see, and how it impacts our environment.

One needs to simply go into any store this tine of year, and view the items for sale like...no kidding....The self stirring coffee cup, motion detector m&m dispenser, and all the As Seen On TV! products.

People worked a job to support a family to produce these useless and damaging to the planet products, so the basically the same people can work and make money to spend on these same products. At the same time technology and science are scrambling to figure a way that such brain dead activity can continue, because God forbid we break the chain of self destruction, because somehow it's our "right".

These are man power hours that could be used in a much more meaningful, satisfying, simple way.....or put another way, there could be many hours not involved pushing that rock up the hill, and actually living life.

I know it's a pardigm shift of something that happened so insidiously in our past, and I know not of a solution.

farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 01:51 pm
@chai2,
I neither. I lways recall what Henry Ford said abiout his cars. "I want people who work for me to be able to afford what theyre making"
It usually falls to how we value the work people do.
As other countries attain our standards of living, what do they create dirst?
BILLIONAIRES. whose entire lives are made more meaningful by being the predators . In that respect socialism often makes the most sense. I know that, for every Billionaire like Gates or Buffet, we hve many more like the presdient of GAZPROM or Trump.
Frugal1
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 01:59 pm
What can you do to Reduce the Effect of socialism & liberalism in the future?
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Krumple
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 02:10 pm
@RyanO45,
RyanO45 wrote:

I'm currently conducting research for a science project at school and I'm doing my research on reducing the effects of climate change. I have questions for anyone viewing this post so please answer all of them.

1. Is climate change something important to you or something you care about?
2. What is the main cause of climate change in your opinion? How would you reduce the main cause?
3. What do you think will happen in the future?
4. What would you do to reduce the effect of climate change? How would you get people involved?
5. Is this a topic people should be aware of?


1. No not really.
2. The changes of the sun and Earths orbit and other planetary effects that have been happening for millions of years.
3. The same climate changes will continue to happen even if humans weren't here.
4. You can't do anything to change climate changes. Its more than just pollution, if pollution is even a cause.
5. Sure but they should be aware the Earths climate has changed drastically many times in the past. Why do people assume it's suppose to stay constant when it never has in the past?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 02:17 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:

2. The changes of the sun and Earths orbit and other planetary effects that have been happening for millions of years.
3. The same climate changes will continue to happen even if humans weren't here.
I used to strongly believe that this was the fact. However, the recording of the changing temperatures wrt human activities is measurable and predictable.
Its a fact not science fiction.

Like smoking, we shall gradually all come to see the results of our messing with the atmosphere.
chai2
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 02:21 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:


Why do people assume it's suppose to stay constant when it never has in the past?


I for one have never assumed that.

However, it truly doesn't take a scientist, rocket or otherwise, to know you don't **** where you eat.

I remember as a very small child, watching people smoke cigarettes. It made no sense to me that someone sucking smoke into their lungs wasn't hurting themselves. I mean, really, is that so difficult to understand?

chai2
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 02:23 pm
@farmerman,
heh. cross posts about the smoking.

Yes, it must be a gradual process to understand breathing in burning material is a bad idea.

Same as it seems to be a gradual process for people to understand if they have unprotected sex, babies are sure to follow.

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 02:40 pm
@farmerman,
We all know Trump is a liar and scammer of many people. People like Gates and Buffett made their money in the proper way, and gave away most of their wealth for human causes around the world.
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2016 02:56 pm
@chai2,
Quote:
However, it truly doesn't take a scientist, rocket or otherwise, to know you don't **** where you eat.


That's also a negative with the AR-15 gas system, clean the **** out of it often and it will serve you well.

Is there any long term data that tracks the climatic conditions for the middle east? Have temps fluctuated, or remained the same over time?

farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 05:57 am
@Frugal1,
Aytzym.org has developed a long term monitor and prediction information network.Its specific to Global Warming effects in the Mid East. It includes the backup data for these predictions.


Israeli Climate-Change Forecasts for the Year 2050

Mean temperature increase of between 1.4° and 1.6° C.(temp rises are close to 1.3C)

Reduction in precipitation between 4 and6 percent; increased rain intensity; and changes in rainfall patterns. (This is now happening)

Increase in evapotranspiration by nearly 10 percent.(Israel has a great ag network for PE)

Greater seasonal temperature variability.(winters are actually more severe)

More severe weather events, such as droughts and floods.(happening now)
Mediterranean biomes expected to shift 300 to 500 km northward; if a 1.5º C warming were to occur, which could mean that Mediterranean ecosystems in Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Jordan would become more desert-like.( certain birds are alrady shifting their ranges, target species like hummingbirds and storks are shifting ranges others are being noted, also specific insects are appering)

Some models predict as much as a 50 percent reduction in mean annual precipitation in the Jordan River Basin.(So far its been around 20%)

Environmental Effects of Climate Change on the Middle East

Severe water shortages.
Mid ocean fresh water Springs have been used for water supplementing. Many springs are becoming saline as sea levels rise)

More severe weather events, such as droughts and floods.

Desertification, loss of arable land.(This can be seen in Africa and its without precedent here desertification is occuring--even during the PEM)

Shifting of ecosystems, species loss.
(again, Africa is a living lab of this)

Coral reef bleaching. evidence is growing from the MNes to the S Pacific)
Increase in jellyfish population.(Not familiar with this one so Ill just listen to the rabbis)

Many of these effects are without precedent and, like ecosystem changes, correspond with a 50 to 75 year pattern )
Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 06:46 am
@farmerman,

Weather forecast decades in advance - they are completely worthless!

If Algore's & 0bama's 'forecast' were correct most of us would be under water right now, no you can't trust a weather forecast more than a few weeks in the future.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 10:03 am
@Frugal1,
shows you how undereducated you are.

The earth is actually like a cream puff with a whipped cream coating. Tiides actually change the shape of the earth by many feet every cycle. Water lvel rises are being monitored and it is from cold hard data the actual sea level rises have been predicted(Not political speeches)

Try not to listen to any pf the Politicians, they know the least. an by listening to them, you know nothing more than they. At least Al Gore has tken to be briefed by several climate research centers (Penn State, U Tenn, Duke, USGS)

Its kind of laughble that you "pose as a credible source".


Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 10:49 am
Errors in long range forecasting are consistent, and there is no proof / data that indicates long range forecasting will be greatly improved in the next 30, 40, 50 years.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 01:28 pm
@farmerman,
http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/critical-issues-sea-level-rise/
I've been to Venice, and never thought I would see it under water as shown by the above link. The water is rising, and it's going to flood more places. San Francisco and Singapore rests on reclaimed land. They're prone to flooding based on the rise in our oceans.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/Flood-prone-SF-neighborhood-shrugs-off-big-storm-10801718.php?client=safari
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Frugal1
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 01:49 pm
Locating cities & towns below the floodplain is something humans have done since man first appeared on the planet, water is life. Too much, or too little water is death.

What common sense denialists fail to recognize is that the planet is not a controlled experiment, everything about it is changing constantly - with & without human activity. Change happens, what was a thriving forest is now petrified, what once was an inland sea is now vast tillable agricultural land. What was once lush & green is now under dry sand, or thick ice. None of these changes required a human presence. The planet does not need us, but we sure as hell need the planet. It's fun to speculate on & predict future climactic events, but you denialists need a reality check.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 02:13 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

Krumple wrote:


Why do people assume it's suppose to stay constant when it never has in the past?


I for one have never assumed that.

However, it truly doesn't take a scientist, rocket or otherwise, to know you don't **** where you eat.

I remember as a very small child, watching people smoke cigarettes. It made no sense to me that someone sucking smoke into their lungs wasn't hurting themselves. I mean, really, is that so difficult to understand?




People are funny about being green though. For example, a person who drives an electric car thinks they are helping the environment but they neglect to realize where that electricity came from. The US produces a majority of its electrical power from coal plants. These are the most heavily polluting industries. So no they are not green at all. All they did was shift pollution type. Instead of fissile fuel from gas emittions they switched to carbon burning which is worse. Not only that but coal plants release mercury into the environment which poisons fish and anything eating those fish.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2016 02:17 pm
@Krumple,
Coal produces 1/3rd of our energy.

Major energy sources and percent share of total U.S. electricity generation in 2015:1 
Coal = 33%
Natural gas = 33%
Nuclear = 20%
Hydropower = 6%
Other renewables = 7%
Biomass = 1.6%
Geothermal = 0.4%
Solar = 0.6%
Wind = 4.7%
Petroleum = 1%
Other gases = <1%

We installed solar on our house, so most of the electric energy is generated by the sun.
 

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