C-SPAN2 is once again the best place to watch the debate!

Oh come on Bill. That almost makes me wanna scowl.

What did governor bush mean "almost."

When isn't that bastid skowlin'?

Tonight he's grown fangs.

What was it Howard Dean said today in Berkeley about mercury in the environment. It didn't sound like that figure from curious george.

The "Quality Air" is cleaner.

Isn't that the stuff Michael Jackson breathes from a tank?

Kerry Explains how stem cell research doesn't come from aborted foetuses and Bush rebuts him by saying that embryonic stem cells embedded in mice are what we should be using not the ones from fertility clinics that Kerry alluded to.

Bush loses.

And let me add to that. Eeeeeeeuw.

Bush is doing foot cell research using his mouth.

Bush signed the partial ban on unborn parental notifications.

I had a hard time deciphering that.

Ah, a loaded question about "three wrong decisions."

1: the pretzel

2: start taliking about right decisions

3. realize you're dancing and start to sing too. . .

You'd be much more effective by not spamming the thread padmasambava.

I thought the president held his own and did himself proud. I was proud of him.

Heh ... I was spamming the other 'live' thread ...

Who's spamming. I was just giving a play by play.

You're easily impressed Foxfyre.

And thanks for the link to the other thread nimh.

Very astute comments.

Oh okay. I got here after the debate was over. Please accept my apologies.

I went to the other thread myself... said this:

I'm happily surprised. I'm not half as disgusted as I was last time around.

Kerry's promise of no tax increase, for incomes under $200,000 with all those promises is a riot. Will anyone believe such nonsense?

Both men were much better than last time... and that's a relief. Bush no longer looked retarded and Kerry appeared even more human... far more human than I thought him capable.

I haven't yet figured out which, if either, won the debate.

Also what I wrote in the other thread...

I watched it.
I think that Kerry gains again. Very strong performance with facts and good sentences, he adress to Bush directly as well as the camera and accordingly the audience.

Thok, I disagree. Bush supporters say Bush won, and Kerry supporters say Kerry won. The important issue is how many undecideds will vote for Bush or Kerry.

er, well , sure. That's even politics. How many undecideds voters swing to Kerry or Bush.. we will hear it later..

Thok, both Bush and Kerry have their pools of die-hard supporters.

THIS election will be decided by the die-hard OPPOSITION.

Which of these two has alienated the most people?

Grading the debate on form, style, and substance, I give a slight edge to Bush in this one. The only thing that kept him from winning it decisively is again he missed good opportunities to nail Kerry; however he was much more together and much more likeable in this debate. Kerry actually got flustered a couple of times tonight which he did not do at all in the first debate and he appeared on the defensive tonight which he did not at all in the first debate.

Remember Cheney's gaff about not having met John Edwards? That got played again and again by the media and on this board.

But Kerry's gaff about the non existant lumber mill hasn't been mentioned anywhere by the media post debate. Bush will have to win this via vote of the American people as the media will not be fair and is unlikely to give him the win.

Bush's Yalie fratbrothers have related their reminiscences about Dubbya "holding his own" rather frequently.

Interesting I believe Kerry won.