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BUSH TURNS UP CAMPAIGN RHETORIC

 
 
Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 08:39 am
By RICHARD W. STEVENSON
and DAVID E. SANGER

Published: October 7, 2004

FARMINGTON HILLS, Mich., Oct. 6 - President Bush delivered a scathing, point-by-point critique on Wednesday of Senator John Kerry's stands on national security and the economy, giving no ground on either his decision to go to war or growing questions about mistakes in the occupation of Iraq.

In a retooled and highly combative stump speech delivered on the day when a new report raised questions about his rationale for going to war, Mr. Bush seemed to be trying to make up ground that polls show he lost during last week's debate. He accused Mr. Kerry of "proposing policies and doctrines that would weaken America and make the world more dangerous" and of pursuing a "strategy of retreat" in Iraq.

"Last week in our debate, he once again came down firmly on every side of the Iraq war," Mr. Bush said of Mr. Kerry, to ripples of laughter from a partisan audience in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. "He stated that Saddam Hussein was a threat and that America had no business removing that threat. Senator Kerry said our soldiers and marines are not fighting for a mistake - but also called the liberation of Iraq a 'colossal error.' He said we need to do more to train Iraqis, but he also said we shouldn't be spending so much money over there. He said he wants to hold a summit meeting, so he can invite other countries to join what he calls 'the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time.' ''

More at: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/07/politics/campaign/07bush.html?oref=login&th
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 08:41 am
Yeah, he's burning up the pavement on the way to the second debate. I expect him to come out swinging in this more familiar format.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 08:41 am
Hopefully, GW can be as forceful in the next debate.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 08:53 am
new batteries?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 08:58 am
isn't what you really mean "bush handlers turn up rhetoric....bush doing a pretty good job reading what's been scripted for him without stumbling over too many big words?"
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:03 am
I thought Bush was fine in content, but pretty dismal in delivery.

Kerry had been highly coached by Carville. He had his answer about waffling on the 87 billion down pat.

They seemed to pull out their harsher stuff during their rebuttals and wrap-ups, reducing the time the other guy had to respond adequately.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:08 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
isn't what you really mean "bush handlers turn up rhetoric....bush doing a pretty good job reading what's been scripted for him without stumbling over too many big words?"


Damn right.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:14 am
kickycan wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
isn't what you really mean "bush handlers turn up rhetoric....bush doing a pretty good job reading what's been scripted for him without stumbling over too many big words?"


Damn right.


Yo, Kicky...I'm gonna be in the City today. Wanna have a beer together tonight???
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:19 am
Can't. I have italian class every thursday night. One of these days though, I'd love to.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:22 am
kickycan wrote:
Can't. I have italian class every thursday night. One of these days though, I'd love to.


okay.

Get in touch with me at [email protected].
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:23 am
frank, how about in 2 weeks ( I will be in the city for one night at least)
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:32 am
dyslexia wrote:
frank, how about in 2 weeks ( I will be in the city for one night at least)


I will make myself available, Dys. Looking forward to meeting you.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:42 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Can't. I have italian class every thursday night. One of these days though, I'd love to.


okay.

Get in touch with me at [email protected].


Thanks. I'll do that.
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Larry434
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:43 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
isn't what you really mean "bush handlers turn up rhetoric....bush doing a pretty good job reading what's been scripted for him without stumbling over too many big words?"


And doing it well, I might add. :wink:
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:51 am
He may be reading his script well, but the real world is unscripted. That is where he has to perform as president and he is not IMHO doing well at that.
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Larry434
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:55 am
Acquiunk wrote:
He may be reading his script well, but the real world is unscripted. That is where he has to perform as president and he is not IMHO doing well at that.


According to the latest polls, over half the country disagrees with your assessment. Why do you suppose that is?
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:57 am
Probably because that is a Fox poll. I've seen recently published numbers that are the reverse.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 09:58 am
You really shouldn't rely on Fox polls....

Cycloptichorn
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 10:02 am
Acquiunk wrote:
Probably because that is a Fox poll. I've seen recently published numbers that are the reverse.


Acquiunk, you might want to look farther down the page when you go to the link provided. There is also an ABC/Washington Post poll and a CBS/NYTimes poll, both showing more approving than disapproving.

From your response you may not have seen those polls there so I thought I would give you a heads up.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Thu 7 Oct, 2004 10:03 am
Larry434 wrote:
Acquiunk wrote:
He may be reading his script well, but the real world is unscripted. That is where he has to perform as president and he is not IMHO doing well at that.


According to the latest polls, over half the country disagrees with your assessment. Why do you suppose that is?
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm


because the "cowboys" are scared......
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