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Wed 6 Oct, 2004 08:48 pm
The open of this topic is due to the strong recommendation of panzade.
Long time since that human disaster.
And China also suffered.
1/3 of the china's territory, conentrated the 3/4 of the population and almost the whole national income,was occupied, and humiliated at the darkest time of our nation.
So i started this topic to commemorate the necrology of 30,000,000 innocent and dutiful chinese dead people.
If your location is true then you must be a Chinese. Well you are very patriotic. It's a good thing.... yeah... I'm Chinese too. It is the dark times. And you can't say that we are not affected by it now. Look at the mess between mainland and Taiwan and the development gap between mainland and Hong Kong. WW2 is a turning point for the Chinese Empire.....
30,000,000 innocent people? I had no idea it was such a large number
Where are you living Rosslyn?
Of course there are various numbers, but mostly I can find 'only' 9 million civilians and 1.3 million (killed and missing) soldiers as WII casualties.
The Chinese cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people, that's a figure even confirmed by the actual Chinese government.
Well JB, we'll have to start off by sifting through the numbers I think.
I live in the U.K. currently so....
er yes the Chinese Cultural Revolution did cause many deaths but that on the whole (in my opinion) is a mistake. It's complicated...... And I don't understand much of it anyway.
30,000,000....... is that 3 billion or million? I'm not good with zeros..... it was a lot of people but probably not that much. But if you include the 8-year war with Japan.... then......
Rosslyn
The US name it different to us others:
Number of zeros
U.S. - Other countries
3 - thousand - thousand
6 - million - million
9 - billion - 1000 million (1 milliard)
12 - trillion - billion
(So, that would be 30 million for us, 30 billion for the USA)
really? ok i let me check
I have made a mistake due to the language distinction.
In chinese we have a word which means "killed, missing and injured"(we can temorarily call it KMI).
So china suffered the KMI of 30,000,000.
So delete the "necrology"?
Walter Hinteler wrote:Rosslyn
The US name it different to us others:
Number of zeros
U.S. - Other countries
3 - thousand - thousand
6 - million - million
9 - billion - 1000 million (1 milliard)
12 - trillion - billion
(So, that would be 30 million for us, 30 billion for the USA)
I still dont understand and dont believe.
30,000,000??????????? are you sure?!
NanJing massacre.... I see...... Damn the Japs!
Even under the Cultural Revolution, chinese population was growing, while the population was decreasing during half a century before and among WWII.
I have been always wondering what makes this difference.
John-Bush wrote:I still dont understand and dont believe.
30,000,000??????????? are you sure?!
In the cultural revolution - you gave the other number :wink:
satt_focusable wrote:Even under the Cultural Revolution, chinese population was growing, while the population was decreasing during half a century before and among WWII.
I have been always wondering what makes this difference.
Well a local chinese folk will respond you like this: Mao encouraged people to produce babies as more as possible. He always said, the more people we get, the stronger we will be :wink:
Glad to see you satt_focusable
First i promise there will be not hostilities in my topic just because of the unpleasant things between our past generations.
Secondly i believe we have the duty to find the truth. Would you please just copy some main ideas of what your history books have taught you about the 8-year-war?
Shall we just discuss it?
sincerely, JB
John-Bush..
I was not taught about history after the year 1930 in schools. Silence about the contemporary history seemed to be an implicit tendency of school teaching for a while in Japan.
I read multiple books from various angles. I do not belong to any political party and I am trying to be inpartial and disinterested.
oh really?
Silence?
thanks for providing the information i have never heard.
And you you have a very pleasant sentiment Sat
I ask both Satt and JB: Are current History textbooks more revealing of what really happened during the 1930"s between China and Japan?
I do not say textbooks do not refer to contemporary history at all. What I say is that it is not being "taught" in classrooms, unless a teacher has particular interest in it.
(There are persons with many views in the political world, which is not unnatural. Those with extreme views, although their voices are noticed sometimes because of the loudness, are not many in number.)
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