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Sat 19 Nov, 2016 02:31 pm
I'm a known progressive here on a2k (sort of a new old word to me, but liberal has different meanings in different places). I've never been much of a marcher - did that once on a local level. I'm more of a stander, stood with the Women in Black, re Iraq. I project there will be marches to come, and possibly public disorder, which I'm not a fan of but understand. I prefer emailing our congress people.
I can imagine military intervention, not so much re public disorder, though that is possible, but re stopping our president elect from horrible and ridiculous actions (if possible, given desk buttons). This is an unstable guy, or so it appears. I can imagine wishing for military intervention, not that I do now, just that I can imagine it.
I am watching/reading about sane people telling us in the US to calm down, and have mixed feelings about all that.
I get it that some portion of people on a2k will disagree with my prognostications.
Your views re how matters will unfold?
I am old enough to remember Kent State, and the 4 finger salute given to hippies by rednecks (we got four of you at Kent State), Tricky Dicky, Spiro Agnew, etc. It is here again.
"This is an unstable guy, or so it appears."
Many people were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Like someone said, "He's crazy, but maybe we need a little crazy."
Besides, many felt the alternative was just awful, too.
@PUNKEY,
PUNKEY wrote:"He's crazy, but maybe we need a little crazy."
That's a bit like saying "stupidity got us into this mess, now it's got to get us out again".
I for one will sit back and enjoy a robust economy one like we haven't seen since the eighties. A period of lower taxes and economic growth. The end of Isis and the reduction of the threat of radical Islamic terrorists in this country end around the world. We will see the securing of our borders and the elimination of criminal aliens the reduction of drugs and the potential threat of more terrorists entering this country. We will enjoy respect from other nations or their fear (Iran)... both will be a welcome change from what we experience now. This will be a new age of American exceptionalism and hopefully the death of political correctness. We will see a safeguarding of the Bill of Rights protected by originalist jurists who respect the Constitution. We will see an end to jobs going to Mexico and China and fairer trade deals. We will see progressive bleeding-heart liberal intolerant politically correct leftists marginalized... All in all not bad if you ask me.
@contrex,
Respect in the way of laughter, fear and disgust - all rolled into one.
@cicerone imposter,
As long as fear is in there that's a good ******* thing.
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:As long as fear is in there that's a good ******* thing.
Fear does not make everybody impotent, as Hitler discovered.
The teabaggers have two years minimum, possibly eight years, to **** up the nation. They cannot any longer blame liberals, socialists, hippies, Obama, Benghazi and Whitewater for the nation's ills.
@edgarblythe,
More like unfuck the last 8 years.
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
The teabaggers have two years minimum, possibly eight years, to **** up the nation.
Senate math in 2018 says they will have at least 4 years.
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
The teabaggers have two years minimum, possibly eight years, to **** up the nation. They cannot any longer blame liberals, socialists, hippies, Obama, Benghazi and Whitewater for the nation's ills.
Oh no, we get at least 8 years of blaming Obama for all the country's woes. I mean come on. Some on the left are STILL blaming Bush for stuff.
@McGentrix,
Could it possibly be because Bush fucked up the economy so bad and destabilized the entire Middle East for generations to come?
@edgarblythe,
Oh Bullshit Bush didn't cause the economic collapse he inherited The clinton-era subprime Lending Fiasco.
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:
Could it possibly be because Bush fucked up the economy so bad and destabilized the entire Middle East for generations to come?
I neglected to mention Republicans stalling every phase of government possible so long as Obama remained in office.
That said, the Democrats contributed their own brand of fucked up-ness. A flawed system of Obamacare, toadying to big business, allowing a debacle like Standing Rock to go on, continuing G W Bush's foreign policy with a vengeance, not reinstating Glass-Steagal, not prosecuting over the real estate fraud, pushing TPP, defrauding the primaries - etc.
@edgarblythe,
Oh you forgot to mention I think Bush caused two or three earthquakes in about a half a dozen floods and one or two wildfires.
@edgarblythe,
The real estate fraud was perpetrated by everybody involved. That includes the banks, mortgage companies, rating companies, real estate companies, sellers and buyers. They sold to consumers who didn't qualify for those loans.
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