Why won't Bush debate at length regarding the issues?

Besides, since Kerry's for and against even the time of day, what's to debate??

I cannot expect you to really get the point I was making.

"Sorry,if any muslims were offended,but I,myself was beyond offended last 9/11. And have been WAY beyond offended ever since. We are bowing and scraping to these people,while they continue to terrorize us. God forbid,any muslim takes offense, while they take us over."

"Most of those [political scientists] are idiots who have never worked in a campaign. I'd like to put 'em all in a room and shoot 'em," Todd Harris, Gov. Jeb Bush's campaign spokesman, Tampa Tribune -- 8/29/02

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Ann Coulter, National Review Online - 9/12/01

"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen." Jerry Falwell on why the attacks of 9/11 happened, The 700 Club -- 9/13/01

"To all american's, Tomorrow will be the 1 year anniversary of 911 as we all know. I am a firm believer in an eye for an eye. I think that we should treat every Rag Wearing freak here in the state's the way that they treat us. Blow The bastard's up."

"Why are we Americans content to sit back, smile and nod alot,ad say,"Oh,Gosh,it'd just a small prtion of those scoudrols,it woumt happed again.Islam is good. alla is good. sex offenders are good.We mus fae the DIxie 2000 at least three times a day, and bow, and give thanks to this man who takes in sex offenders, and teacheshem the bllod and guts truth of islam."

"Just be careful. One day, when you and your family are cooking hot dogs in the backyard, just be careful, because your Korean neighbor might actualy be cooking his dog. That's how they do it over there, you know."

"You and all your sodomite friends should all get AIDS and die"--to a caller who expressed sympathy for homosexuals.

"Tell me, is your real last name Hitler, or is it Mousolini? Is your last name Sung, or is it Mao? Is your real last name Pol Pot, or is your real first name Adolf? Thanks for the call, you anti-semetic piece of vermin."--To a caller who said that there was nothing wrong with people protesting his show.

"You are the liberal scum who should be rounded up from within and put in camps for what you are doing to this country. The problem is that you have no love in your life and you have no orgasms, and I realize that none of you liberals can experience orgasms, or else you wouldn't be this way. If you could acheive a sexual orgasm, your repressed anger would be gone and you wouldn;t be such a fool."-- to a caller who dissagreed with Savage about Ritalin.

He refers to Asians as "little soy eaters" and "little devils" who should be nuked. He also says that Chinese-Americans should be forced to sign loyalty oaths or go to internment camps. He calls non-white countries "turd-world nations". Anyone who dissagrees with him is a "nazi", a "brownshirt", "antisemetic", or a "gay sodomite who should get AIDS and die".

At no point in time does an American President EVER need to be able to make a decision on the fly. That is WHY the president has a large, dedicated cabinet of people with very specialized jobs. So they can be experts while the president leads them.

If you want to have a forum of un-rehearsed questions, that is fine, but do not call it a debate, and allow each candidate to have his advisors join them. That way, each can give the best possible answer instead of what a single person thinks.

McG, I wonder if that's true though. Doesn't the president have to speak with foreign leaders? When they ask him a question, does he rush over to his advisors to answer it? Or do the presidential advisors just meet with other leaders' advisors and do all the negotiating on their own? Hmmmm...

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I cannot expect you to really get the point I was making.

Perhaps because there was no point to detect.

But when a debate is whittled down to scripted questions and scripted answers, and the majority of this country buys it, then what do you suppose that says about America's ability to be objective in gauging candidates by how they think, rather than how they read off of a scripted answer?

We on the left already know how Bush supporters feel about us:

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"Sorry,if any muslims were offended,but I,myself was beyond offended last 9/11. And have been WAY beyond offended ever since. We are bowing and scraping to these people,while they continue to terrorize us. God forbid,any muslim takes offense, while they take us over."

"Most of those [political scientists] are idiots who have never worked in a campaign. I'd like to put 'em all in a room and shoot 'em," Todd Harris, Gov. Jeb Bush's campaign spokesman, Tampa Tribune -- 8/29/02

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." Ann Coulter, National Review Online - 9/12/01

"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen." Jerry Falwell on why the attacks of 9/11 happened, The 700 Club -- 9/13/01

And some interesting comments from a couple of rightwing message boards:

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"To all american's, Tomorrow will be the 1 year anniversary of 911 as we all know. I am a firm believer in an eye for an eye. I think that we should treat every Rag Wearing freak here in the state's the way that they treat us. Blow The bastard's up."

"Why are we Americans content to sit back, smile and nod alot,ad say,"Oh,Gosh,it'd just a small prtion of those scoudrols,it woumt happed again.Islam is good. alla is good. sex offenders are good.We mus fae the DIxie 2000 at least three times a day, and bow, and give thanks to this man who takes in sex offenders, and teacheshem the bllod and guts truth of islam."

And of course one must add some stellar quotes from Michael Savage to see where the REAL hate is coming from:

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"Just be careful. One day, when you and your family are cooking hot dogs in the backyard, just be careful, because your Korean neighbor might actualy be cooking his dog. That's how they do it over there, you know."

"You and all your sodomite friends should all get AIDS and die"--to a caller who expressed sympathy for homosexuals.

"Tell me, is your real last name Hitler, or is it Mousolini? Is your last name Sung, or is it Mao? Is your real last name Pol Pot, or is your real first name Adolf? Thanks for the call, you anti-semetic piece of vermin."--To a caller who said that there was nothing wrong with people protesting his show.

"You are the liberal scum who should be rounded up from within and put in camps for what you are doing to this country. The problem is that you have no love in your life and you have no orgasms, and I realize that none of you liberals can experience orgasms, or else you wouldn't be this way. If you could acheive a sexual orgasm, your repressed anger would be gone and you wouldn;t be such a fool."-- to a caller who dissagreed with Savage about Ritalin.

He refers to Asians as "little soy eaters" and "little devils" who should be nuked. He also says that Chinese-Americans should be forced to sign loyalty oaths or go to internment camps. He calls non-white countries "turd-world nations". Anyone who dissagrees with him is a "nazi", a "brownshirt", "antisemetic", or a "gay sodomite who should get AIDS and die".

If these people are ALL Bush supporters, than it should be no surprise why we feel the way we do regarding their disgusting vitriol and hateful propoganda on the airwaves and in the rags. And, as is usual of Bush's style, he refuses to denounce ANY of it.

So, don't act so surprised, CoastalRat, and our increasing hatred regarding this pResident and this failed presidency. His rightwing operatives who he refuses to denounce are stirring those burning embers of hate quite nicely.

kickycan wrote:

McG, I wonder if that's true though. Doesn't the president have to speak with foreign leaders? When they ask him a question, does he rush over to his advisors to answer it? Or do the presidential advisors just meet with other leaders' advisors and do all the negotiating on their own? Hmmmm...

But before meeting with a foreign leader, ALL presidents are briefed about what will be discussed. Hot points are covered and strategies created before the meeting. Decisions are made before the meeting.

Chuckster wrote:

Besides, since Kerry's for and against even the time of day, what's to debate??

now coastal rat let me ask you....do you find this remark to be sincere and heartfelt, or assinine?

I ask the question seriously and without rancor of any kind.

Why wont bush debate at length regarding the issues?

BECAUSE HES A ****ING MORON

If you want to have a forum of un-rehearsed questions, that is fine, but do not call it a debate, and allow each candidate to have his advisors join them. That way, each can give the best possible answer instead of what a single person thinks.

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

Chuckster wrote:

Besides, since Kerry's for and against even the time of day, what's to debate??

now coastal rat let me ask you....do you find this remark to be sincere and heartfelt, or assinine?

I ask the question seriously and without rancor of any kind.

I could see where a case can be made that he is making an attempt at humor. If so, I see no problem. We could find lots of posts here that do the same thing. Now if he is really being serious, then I guess he has a problem, because I doubt if anyone really takes a position on the time of day.

CoastalRat wrote:

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

Chuckster wrote:

Besides, since Kerry's for and against even the time of day, what's to debate??

now coastal rat let me ask you....do you find this remark to be sincere and heartfelt, or assinine?

I ask the question seriously and without rancor of any kind.

I could see where a case can be made that he is making an attempt at humor. If so, I see no problem. We could find lots of posts here that do the same thing. Now if he is really being serious, then I guess he has a problem, because I doubt if anyone really takes a position on the time of day.

I gently suggest that you find the possibility that chucksters post was a harmless attempt at humor while finding mine to be a nasty insult because he is pro bush and I am not.

I tell you without meanness my friend that I think you're busted on that. :wink: