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Nader off the ballot in Florida, for now.

 
 
CerealKiller
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2004 04:07 pm
Fvck Florida. I'm boycotting them. And fvck the republicians and democrats for corrupting the process.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 06:19 pm
He's baaaaaaaack.

Quote:
Florida OK's Nader's Name on Election Ballot

Sep 13, 6:34 PM (ET)

By Jim Loney
MIAMI (Reuters) - Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name can appear on Florida ballots for the election, despite a court order to the contrary, Florida's elections chief told officials on Monday in a move that could help President Bush in the key swing state.

The Florida Democratic Party reacted with outrage, calling the move "blatant partisan maneuvering" by Gov. Jeb Bush, the president's younger brother, and vowed to fight it.

In a memo to Florida's 67 county supervisors of elections, Division of Elections director Dawn Roberts said the uncertainty of Hurricane Ivan, which could hit parts of the state by week's end, forced her to act.

The action came in an ongoing legal battle over whether Nader should be allowed on the Florida ballot as the Reform Party candidate.

Nader, an independent nominated by the Reform Party, was a presidential candidate in 2000 when Bush won Florida, and the White House, by 537 votes over then-Vice President Al Gore. Analysts said most of the nearly 98,000 votes Nader got in Florida would have gone to Gore had Nader not been on the ballot.

Florida Circuit Court Judge Kevin Davey issued a temporary injunction last week preventing the state from putting Nader on the 2004 ballot, siding with a Democratic challenge that the Reform Party did not qualify as a national party under state law.

A hearing on a permanent injunction is scheduled for Wednesday. But Roberts said Hurricane Ivan, which is headed for Florida's Gulf coast, had raised "a substantial question as to when such a hearing" will be held.

'PARTISAN MANEUVERING'

As a result, she said, Florida's Department of State had filed an appeal against the temporary injunction. The appeal application automatically lifts the injunction, allowing the counties to put Nader's name on overseas absentee ballots, which must be mailed by Saturday.

"I'm in disbelief," said Scott Maddox, chairman of the Florida Democratic Party. "This is blatant partisan maneuvering on the part of Jeb Bush to give his brother a leg up on election day."

"They are trying to get ballots printed with Nader's name on them," said Maddox. "I am astounded that Jeb Bush is willing to defy the judiciary to help his brother."

Maddox said if Nader drew votes away from any candidate it would be Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

Gov. Bush said he agreed with Roberts' decision.

"It's up to the judge to determine, based on the law, whether Nader should be on the ballot or not," Bush said. "But while that process goes on, we cannot put ourselves in the position where the ministerial role of the supervisors cannot be fulfilled."

Maddox noted that Tallahassee, the state capital where Davey sits, is not expected to be directly hit by the hurricane. He said the circuit court could hear the case as scheduled on Wednesday and rule immediately.

In addition, the case is before the Florida Supreme Court, which could also rule at any time, he said.


Source
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 06:34 pm
Democrats are playing dirty politics with this election in with regard to Nader. He is a valid candidate and should be allowed on the ballot. The democrats are acting like gangsters in NY with garbage trucks. Eliminate the competition in any way possible.


For those of you who complain about a 2 party system, you should don't mind when it comes to taking someone off the ballot who threatens your non-election. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 06:40 pm
dirty politics put the current guy in the white house.....what's your beef?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 06:42 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
dirty politics put the current guy in the white house.....what's your beef?
The US Constitution put Bush in office. Why don't you get over it. Bite your tongue and vote this year, maybe you'll get luck, but I doubt it.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:01 pm
with all due respect baldimo when I need or desire your advice I'll ask for it, but I doubt it.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:14 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
with all due respect baldimo when I need or desire your advice I'll ask for it, but I doubt it.
People are still whining over something that happened 4 years ago and are trying to use it in this year's election. Bush won according to the US Constitution. It is the Supreme Law of the land and it was followed. What happened in FL was a state issue and the Supreme Court had no say in a State manner. Bring it up with the State Supreme Court of FL, they are the ones who ruled no more recounts.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:19 pm
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
with all due respect baldimo when I need or desire your advice I'll ask for it, but I doubt it.
People are still whining over something that happened 4 years ago and are trying to use it in this year's election. Bush won according to the US Constitution. It is the Supreme Law of the land and it was followed. What happened in FL was a state issue and the Supreme Court had no say in a State manner. Bring it up with the State Supreme Court of FL, they are the ones who ruled no more recounts.


you quoted me but failed to comprehend the quote I see.... :wink:
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:29 pm
I understood but ignored. That's the great part about being in America, I can do as I please even if it makes others mad. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:32 pm
or makes you look like an idiot... :wink:

that is a great feature of America.....
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:43 pm
are you violating TOS?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 08:02 pm
absolutely not...merely agreeing with you on the wondrous plethora of options available to you....and your right to use them......
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 07:54 am
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
with all due respect baldimo when I need or desire your advice I'll ask for it, but I doubt it.
People are still whining over something that happened 4 years ago and are trying to use it in this year's election. Bush won according to the US Constitution. It is the Supreme Law of the land and it was followed. What happened in FL was a state issue and the Supreme Court had no say in a State manner. Bring it up with the State Supreme Court of FL, they are the ones who ruled no more recounts.


Were you even here in 2000? It was the highest court in the land that overuled the state supreme court. So everything you just said is backwards including Bush getting elected by the constitution.
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 07:56 am
Just in case you don't believe me.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/12/president.election/
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 11:05 am
revel wrote:
Baldimo wrote:
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
with all due respect baldimo when I need or desire your advice I'll ask for it, but I doubt it.
People are still whining over something that happened 4 years ago and are trying to use it in this year's election. Bush won according to the US Constitution. It is the Supreme Law of the land and it was followed. What happened in FL was a state issue and the Supreme Court had no say in a State manner. Bring it up with the State Supreme Court of FL, they are the ones who ruled no more recounts.


Were you even here in 2000? It was the highest court in the land that overuled the state supreme court. So everything you just said is backwards including Bush getting elected by the constitution.


I got a one item wrong and that was the FL Supreme Court not ordering a recount when they did. Bush was elected by the Constitution because we work under an electoral college which is dictated in the US Constitution.

Several months after Bush took office there were at least 2 groups that did recounts in every way in which Gore wanted them done, and Bush still won the state of FL. So it didn't matter in the end, BUSH WON.
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 02:11 pm
This old news that has been rehashed to death.

I was merely making the point that your statement that the supreme court had no business interferring in a state election was correct however the rest of the post was incorrect since it was the state that ruled in favor of the recount and the US supreme court that overruled the State court. The US Supreme Court overstepped itself which some of the disenters in the decision said in their ruling. The decision was divided on party lines.

Bush did not win, he was given the office by the US Supreme Court.

All those unofficial recounts do not count because the results were not reliable. So we do not know who would have gotten those electoral votes.

The whole thing was a disgrace and it seems that our whole government has been going down hill since then. Bush and company should have remembered an old nursery simple saying, "cheaters never win"
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 02:31 pm
Looks like Nader is on the ballot after all.

http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/reuters/amdf695332.jpg
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Tue 14 Sep, 2004 02:48 pm
Too Bad for Bush. It gives Florida Republicans an alternative.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2004 01:36 pm
padmasambava wrote:
Too Bad for Bush. It gives Florida Republicans an alternative.
Republicans voting for a Green party memeber? Not going to happen, if he were a Independent with some strong views like Perot then I would say there was an issue, but Green party people take votes from Dems, that is why they have been trying tp get him off of the ballot for the last several months. It will only effect Kerry not Bush.

Dems acting like the Mafia, Im not suprised after the way Clinton people were nailed with FBI files on some of the political enemies of Clinton. Same old tatics for the Dems.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2004 01:40 pm
seriously hes off the ballot?

i read this morning he was most certainly on the ballott

courtesy one Jeb Bush
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