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The Death of the Kerry Campaign

 
 
JustWonders
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:24 am
CoastalRat wrote:
Yes, letting go of the hate is a great suggestion for everyone on this forum, lefties, righties and in betweenies.


Tim Russert to Letterman last night on the remaining two months of the campaign: "Get the kids away from the windows and fasten your seatbelts!"

I fear the worst is yet to come...from the lefties, the righties and the in-betweenies.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:29 am
SteveH. First of all, calm down a little.

Second, some math. Over the course of the week, when adding up the numbers (both protestors numbers and police numbers) the estimate of the number of protestors in total was around a million.

That's one in every 300 people in America protesting actively, BTW. Of course, some people went to more than one protest so it's a little less than that, but still a sizeable percentage of our population.

Now. There were more than the 'hundreds' arrested as you say; there were actually around 2000.

Now for the math. 2% of a million people would be 20,000 arrested, right? That means that .2% would be around.... 2000 people arrested, which conforms with the NY numbers nicely.

You seriously should try doing research instead of throwing around rhetoric and calling them liars if you expect to be taken seriously...

Cycloptichorn
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 3 Sep, 2004 10:48 am
Published on Thursday, September 2, 2004 by the San Diego Union-Tribune

A Father Gets Anti-War Message to the Floor
Escondido resident cracks GOP security

by David Washburn


NEW YORK - Thousands voiced their anger toward President Bush in the streets on Tuesday, but peace activist Fernando Suarez del Solar of Escondido took his message to the floor of the Republican National Convention.

As first lady Laura Bush was delivering her prime-time speech in Madison Square Garden, Suarez, standing near the Texas delegation, held a banner that read, "Bush Lied. My Son Died."

Suarez, who had made it through security on a borrowed credential and hid the banner under his clothes, was quickly escorted out.

Yesterday, the father of 20-year-old Marine Lance Cpl. Jesus Suarez del Solar, who died in Iraq, said he welcomed the opportunity to perform his act of civil disobedience.

"A friend told me, 'Now is your chance,' so I took it," Suarez said.

He was surprised by and thankful for the responses of a few Republican delegates who expressed sympathy and understanding as he was being led out of the convention hall.

"They said, 'I agree with you. I'm sorry,' " he said.

Suarez was not arrested and said he was treated well by security personnel.

The Tijuana-born Suarez has been active in a peace organization, Military Families Speak Out, since his son's death in March 2003. He walked at the head of Sunday's United for Peace and Justice march through midtown Manhattan.

Suarez was one of several protesters who made it to the convention floor in the past two days.

Not long after Suarez was escorted out, Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink, an anti-war women's group, got within 30 feet of Vice President Dick Cheney during Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's speech.

"How much money has Halliburton made in Iraq?" she yelled at Cheney, the former CEO of Halliburton.

She held a banner reading: "Be Pro Life. Stop Killing in Iraq."

And yesterday morning, demonstrators from ACT UP, the AIDS activist group, crashed a Republican youth gathering on the convention floor just after Bush's twin daughters, Jenna and Barbara, introduced White House chief of staff Andrew Card.

Although multiple levels of security checkpoints make it virtually impossible to smuggle a weapon into the convention, many credentials do not have photos and can be swapped freely. Suarez said he got his credential from friends who had radio and television credentials, but he would not say who they were.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 05:41 pm
Too late to rearrange the deck chairs on the Kerry Titanic.



Kerry's Backers A Little Panicky As Bush Surges
by Ben Smith



There's no one more panicky than a New York Democrat. Endowed with their party's inferiority complex and a native neurosis, and overwhelmed by a show of Republican force in their backyard last week, members of the city's Democratic establishment were among the first to hit the panic button on Senator John Kerry's Presidential campaign. Now they're among the hardest to reassure in the face of a surging President George W. Bush.

"When campaigns face difficult times, Republicans stay focused, and New York Democrats go into group therapy," lamented Robert Zimmerman, a Democratic National Committeeman and major donor to the Democrats' Presidential campaign. "We have to stay as focused as the Republicans, and as disciplined."

New York Democrats can, perhaps, be forgiven their doubts. After a summer of tight polls and high hopes, they got a glimpse, up close, of the Republicans' smooth operation at the midtown convention, and they shuddered though the scenes that surrounded it. There were Missouri delegates feeding our homeless for the cameras, tan Floridians holding "Jeb '08" signs and chanting "12 more years!" New York's sports teams were displaced for delegates, and its nightclubs transformed into black-lit hangars for Washington mixers. Meanwhile, local pols felt sidelined by Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe, grumbling that he monopolized their party's televised "response" time.

Now New York is the vortex of Democratic gloom. Local Democratic officials told The Observer they weren't sure if Mr. Kerry could recover from a month's pounding by the Bush campaign. One major contributor to Mr. Kerry's Presidential campaign, who insisted on anonymity, even said he'd probably damp down his giving to Mr. Kerry's campaign over his disappointment with how it is being run. Meanwhile, officials like Representative Charles Rangel of Harlem are offering public, unsolicited criticism. "I had nothing to do with the response [to the Republican convention], and if I did I would be embarrassed, because the response was so tepid," he told The Observer. "I hope we're back on the right track."

August was a tough month for Mr. Kerry, who was trying to save his campaign money to spend closer to Election Day, and who found himself mired in a complicated, fruitless debate over his Vietnam War record. Then there was the convention, a made-for-TV blend of Sept. 11 memories and assertions that only President Bush can keep America safe. Then a pair of polls, from Time and Newsweek, showed Mr. Bush with a lead of 11 percentage points over Mr. Kerry. Finally, New York's adopted former President, Bill Clinton, interceded from his Washington Heights hospital bed to offer Mr. Kerry advice, as a team of former Clinton aides set up shop in Mr. Kerry's Washington headquarters.

"We had these Republicans up in our grill for the last 10 days, and there's just been the sense that everywhere we turn, we're seeing the Republican message machine doing a good job," said Representative Anthony Weiner of Brooklyn. "I would spend four years being livid if I felt the successful Bush re-election got launched in New York, and a lot of local politicians are anxious about that."

The Republican media saturation could be a little unnerving, said City Councilman Eric Gioia. "Every time you turned the page, you saw a picture of a Republican you knew saying nice things about George Bush."

One prominent Kerry supporter, Fred Hochberg, actually made it into the belly of the G.O.P. beast, Madison Square Garden, in his capacity as dean of the New School's Milano Graduate School.

"It was right here?-it wasn't in Philadelphia or Houston," said Mr. Hochberg, an official in the Clinton administration who was a delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Boston. He left admitting that the Republicans put on a pretty good show.

"They made a good case," he said regretfully.

And there's something particularly jarring about seeing it happen on your own turf.

"I've never been in such a large space in New York City with so many people in the room and known nobody," he said. "It's like there's this giant party happening in New York City, and none of us are invited."

Too Clean

From Mr. Clinton to Mr. Rangel and down into the depths of the Democratic Party's grassroots, the complaint has been that Mr. Kerry is keeping it too clean, responding weakly or not at all to attacks on his record and his character. They also worry that the Democratic convention's martial themes were a distraction from the issues that Democrats win on: the economy and health care.

"The Republicans are living in Gangs of New York, and we're playing by the rules of Olympic fencing," said former Public Advocate Mark Green, one of Mr. Kerry's earliest local supporters. The city's political professionals, too, say they'd like to see more of a fight.

"Guys at my level in the business are just distraught, because they like a battle," said Hank Sheinkopf, a veteran New York Democratic consultant. "This is not about having a discussion that will educate and inform; this is about taking territory away from the enemy.

"I looked at the Newsweek poll and wanted to put my hat on the table with some mustard on it. This is a disgrace," Mr. Sheinkopf said.

Even normally easygoing politicians, like Manhattan Borough President C. Virginia Fields, felt compelled to tell the campaign it needed to push back harder.

"I understood that he wanted to look forward, be positive," she said. "But these Republicans don't see it that way, and you just got to go right back and tell the real story."

It's still unclear whether some New Yorkers' disappointment with Mr. Kerry's efforts will translate into any problems for the campaign. The main source of worry is New York's base of Democratic donors, who will be counted on to keep independent 527 political groups and the Democratic National Committee alike afloat as Mr. Kerry switches to public financing for the campaign's last two months. The Senator's leading local supporters said their phones have been ringing all week with complaints and advice from nervous donors.

"They have not done a great job getting the real issues on the table," said Red Apple Supermarkets magnate John Catsimatidis, a major Democratic Party donor. "The Democratic convention was O.K., but people didn't come out of it feeling that all the points had gotten across."

Mr. Catsimatidis, like many Democrats, said he was focusing his hopes on the upcoming Presidential debates.

"John Kerry will have to hit a grand slam at the debates, getting his point across to the American people on the economic problems," he said.

One Democratic fund-raiser, Toni Goodale, said she hoped the new, glum mood would boost Mr. Kerry's financial support.

"People were saying, ?'He has enough money already, he's doing well,'" she said. "Now they may be saying, ?'Wait a minute …. ' That's going to be my argument?-that this is really when you need it.

Other New York politicians, who pride themselves on their political sophistication, feel they should be above cyclical bouts of panic at shifting poll numbers.

"It's so distressing?-I feel like a cliché," said one elected New York City Democrat. "Every four years, Democrats whine about how bad the candidate is and how bad the campaign is?-but this time, it's just true."

Mr. Kerry's aides argue that New Yorkers should know better. Every campaign, we should be telling ourselves, has its ups and downs. Every Republican convention produces a little surge in the polls. And nothing that happens before Labor Day matters anyway.

"A Presidential campaign is not a horse race," said Howard Wolfson, a former spokesman for Senator Hillary Clinton who took a position at the D.N.C. this week as part of an infusion of Clintonites into the Kerry campaign. "A horse race is over very quickly, but a campaign lasts a long time, so people have a lot of time to look at polls and be concerned."

Representative Greg Meeks of Queens, a Kerry backer, took the argument a step further.

"It's like the Rumble in the Jungle," he said, referring to the 1974 boxing match between Muhammad Ali and George Foreman. "We roped and doped and [Mr. Bush] has thrown all his punches, and now he's all out of steam."

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padmasambava
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 06:50 pm
I'm looking forward to the Death of the Bush Campaign too, on November 2nd.

We haven't even seen the worst photos from Abu Ghraib.

Let's see them!
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padmasambava
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 06:54 pm
It seem to me that Bush is at the Helm of the Titanic not Kerry.

Some of us would like to give Kerry a chance at the Titanic, because it is the Titanic, and it is going down with Bush at the helm.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 13 Sep, 2004 07:07 pm
This administration will go down in history as the most incompetent ever.

This truly is the gang that couldn't shoot straight.

I cannot understand how anyone can be duped into thinking that these people are tough on terrorism...because it is obvious they have done more for the terrorists with their incompetence than they have to secure our safety.

MUCH MORE!
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