When You Can't Vote within the Two Party Framework

Jill Stein cannot win.

A recent report published by The New York Times has pointed out that an overwhelming majority of Americans, 91% of them in fact, did not support or vote for Clinton or Trump in the recent primary elections.

The figures were calculated from statistics that were gathered by the U.S. Census Bureau, Federal Election Commission, Dave Leip’s Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections, The Sentencing Project, and the Pew Research Center.

The figures illustrate that scores of people living in America are not allowed to vote, they are considered ineligible due to their age, prior arrests, or incomplete citizenship applications.

In total, there 103 million people who are essentially banned from voting, (almost a 1/3 of the populace) so this demographic would technically fall into the category of people who did not support Trump or Clinton in the primaries, although their actual preference can’t be determined.

Furthermore, there is an increasingly significant portion of the US population that is deciding not to vote on principle, because they don’t feel particularly enthusiastic about any of the candidates.

It was determined that 88 million people who were eligible to vote, did not vote in the primaries, and will not be voting in the general elections either. These are principled non-voters who have refused to put their consent into a system that they don’t believe is legitimate.

Of the Americans who do plan on voting in the main elections this November, most of them didn’t vote in the primary elections. According to the report in the Times, an additional 73 million did not vote in the primaries this year, but will most likely vote in the general election.

In total, roughly 60 million people voted in the primaries, with about 30 million voting for Republicans and another 30 million voting for Democrats. The funny thing about this, though, is the fact that most of these voters supported other candidates in the primaries since there was a wider group of politicians from which they can choose.

Although Clinton and Trump did finish in the lead, they only needed a very small percentage of eligible voters to win the nomination. When looking at the overall level of support that they have among the average American, that number is even smaller. Together, Clinton and Trump had the support of roughly 14% of eligible voters, and 9% of American residents in general.

Personally, I don't see Johnson as more worthy than Clinton. In fact, I think his positions have been more conservative.

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Jill Stein cannot win.

If you take the following stats into account, it's not actually that far from impossible, that either of the outsiders could win. With only an effective 9% of Americans usually bothering to cast a vote, it would only take a rallying effort for their supporters to turn up and cast a vote. (my bolds)

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A recent report published by The New York Times has pointed out that an overwhelming majority of Americans, 91% of them in fact, did not support or vote for Clinton or Trump in the recent primary elections.

The figures were calculated from statistics that were gathered by the U.S. Census Bureau, Federal Election Commission, Dave Leip’s Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections, The Sentencing Project, and the Pew Research Center.

The figures illustrate that scores of people living in America are not allowed to vote, they are considered ineligible due to their age, prior arrests, or incomplete citizenship applications.

In total, there 103 million people who are essentially banned from voting, (almost a 1/3 of the populace) so this demographic would technically fall into the category of people who did not support Trump or Clinton in the primaries, although their actual preference can’t be determined.

Furthermore, there is an increasingly significant portion of the US population that is deciding not to vote on principle, because they don’t feel particularly enthusiastic about any of the candidates.

It was determined that 88 million people who were eligible to vote, did not vote in the primaries, and will not be voting in the general elections either. These are principled non-voters who have refused to put their consent into a system that they don’t believe is legitimate.

Of the Americans who do plan on voting in the main elections this November, most of them didn’t vote in the primary elections. According to the report in the Times, an additional 73 million did not vote in the primaries this year, but will most likely vote in the general election.

In total, roughly 60 million people voted in the primaries, with about 30 million voting for Republicans and another 30 million voting for Democrats. The funny thing about this, though, is the fact that most of these voters supported other candidates in the primaries since there was a wider group of politicians from which they can choose.

Although Clinton and Trump did finish in the lead, they only needed a very small percentage of eligible voters to win the nomination. When looking at the overall level of support that they have among the average American, that number is even smaller. Together, Clinton and Trump had the support of roughly 14% of eligible voters, and 9% of American residents in general.

In a two-party system, people keep up the chant that a vote for an outsider, is a wasted vote. That may not be the case this time. The level of disconnect with either of the major contenders is high enough.
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C'mon man...you're going to see 130,000,000+ votes cast during the general election.

Of the Americans who do plan on voting in the main elections this November, most of them didn’t vote in the primary elections. According to the report in the Times, an additional 73 million did not vote in the primaries this year, but will most likely vote in the general election.

In total, roughly 60 million people voted in the primaries

Even the poor choices we have in the next election, we want a saner person in control of the nuke button. Donald is too ready and anxious to use them.

The question is, which way will they swing, when public opinion of the D and R candidates is so dismal, and, of the sixty million who did vote in the primaries, not all of them voted for the two nominees.

With those who didn't bother with the primaries, they outnumber those who did.

Even the poor choices we have in the next election, we want a saner person in control of the nuke button.

..we want a saner person in control of the nuke button.

It's probably like the Hillary threads, guarded all day long by Hillary people, to make certain nothing counter to the prevailing wisdom gets a good word.

That's what I figured.