Do the Dems feel it slipping away?

BX, do you really think Moore has ruled that out?

I wouldn't count kerry out yet. After all the republicans have already shot their best at him and it is still dead even.

I hear Michael Moore's next documentary will be on the health care issue.

He's such a damn partisan, don't you think ?

Imagine, wanting to raise awareness and open a dialogue on such a "liberal" thing as health care.

Why would he want to waste his time with the health care thing anyway ? Why doesn't he just take his bundles of money, languish amidst the jet set, and leave all us patriotic Americans alone?

It's no longer valid to use the term 'documentary' and Michael Moore in the same county, much less the same sentence.

Sure it is. You may disagree, which is okay, but he remains one of the best-known documentary makers around the globe.

The fact that you don't agree with his message does not change the fact that he makes the documentaries.

Cycloptichorn

Have you SEEN his work ?

Bowling for Columbine was incredible. The questions he raises (and does not answer but chooses to leave open ...) are extraordinarily important.

As are the questions he raises in F911.

It's still "valid" to ask questions in America, isn't it ?

Cy - Michael Moore, in an interview, said it wasn't a documentary. He said it was more an op-ed piece.

Roger and Me was great too!

Speaking of Michael Moore

Why Democrats shouldn't be scared - By Michael Moore

By Michael Moore / USA Today

NEW YORK ?- If I've heard it once, I've heard it a hundred times from discouraged Democrats and liberals as the Republican convention here wrapped up this week. Their shoulders hunched, their eyes at a droop, they lower their voice to a whisper hoping that if they don't say it too loud it may not come true: "I...I...I think Bush is going to win."

Clearly, they're watching too much TV. Too much of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Zell Miller, Dick Cheney and Rudy Giuliani. Too much of swift boat veterans and Fox News commentators.

Action heroes always look good on TV. On Wednesday night, the GOP even made an action-hero video and showed it at the convention. There was White House political czar Karl Rove and other administration officials dressed up for "war" and going through boot camp on the National Mall in Washington.

I could only sit there in the convention hall and wish this were the real thing: Rove, national security adviser Condi Rice and Co. being sent to Iraq, and our boys and girls being brought home. But then the lights came up, and everyone sitting in the Bush family box was having a grand ol' hoot and a holler at the video they just saw.

For some reason, all of this has scared the bejabbers out of the Democrats. I can hear the wailing and moaning from Berkeley, Calif., to Cambridge, Mass. The frightening scenes from the convention have sent John Kerry's supporters looking for the shovels so they can dig their underground bunkers in preparation for another four years of the Dark Force.

I can't believe all of this whimpering and whining. Kerry has been ahead in many polls all summer long, but the Republicans come to New York for one week off-Broadway and suddenly everyone is dressed in mourning black and sitting shivah?

Exactly what moment was it during the convention that convinced them that the Republicans had now "connected" with the majority of Americans and that it was all over? Arnold praising Richard Nixon? Ooooh, that's a real crowd-pleaser. Elizabeth Dole decrying the removal of the Ten Commandments from a courthouse wall in Alabama? Yes, that's a big topic of conversation in the unemployment line in Akron, Ohio. Georgia Sen. Miller, a Democratic turncoat, looking like Freddy Krueger at an all-girls camp? His speech ?- and the look on what you could see of his strangely lit face ?- was enough for parents to send small children to their bedrooms.

My friends ?- and I include all Democrats, independents and recovering Republicans in this salutation ?- do not be afraid. Yes, the Bush Republicans huff and they puff, but they blow their own house down.

As many polls confirm, a majority of your fellow Americans believe in your agenda. They want stronger environmental laws, are strong supporters of women's rights, favor gun control and want the war in Iraq to end.

Rejoice. You're already more than halfway there when you have the public on board. Just imagine if you had to go out and do the work to convince the majority of Americans that women shouldn't be paid the same as men. All they ask is that you put up a candidate for president who believes in something and fights for those beliefs.

Is that too much to ask?

The Republicans have no idea how much harm they have done to themselves. They used to have a folk-hero mayor of New York named Rudy Giuliani. On 9/11, he went charging right into Ground Zero to see whom he could help save. Everyone loved Rudy because he seemed as though he was there to comfort all Americans, not just members of his own party.

But in his speech to the convention this week, he revised the history of that tragic day for partisan gain:

As chaos ensued, "spontaneously, I grabbed the arm of then-police commissioner Bernard Kerik and said to Bernie, 'Thank God George Bush is our president.' And I say it again tonight, 'Thank God George Bush is our president.' "

Please.

There were the sub-par entertainers nobody knew. There was the show of "Black Republicans," "Arab-American Republicans" and other minorities they trot out to show how much they are loved by groups their policies abuse.

And there were the Band-Aids. The worst display of how out of touch the Republicans are was those Purple Heart Band-Aids the delegates wore to mock Kerry over his war wounds, which, for them, did not spill the required amount of blood.

What they didn't seem to get is that watching at home might have been millions of war veterans feeling that they were being ridiculed by a bunch of rich Republicans who would never send their own offspring to die in Fallujah or Danang.

Kerry supporters and Bush-bashers should not despair. These Republicans have not made a permanent dent in Kerry's armor. The only person who can do that is John Kerry. And by coming out swinging as he did just minutes after Bush finished his speech Thursday night, Kerry proved he knows that the only way to win this fight is to fight ?- and fight hard.

He must realize that he faces Al Gore's fate only if he fails to stand up like the hero he is, only if he sits on the fence and keeps justifying his vote for the Iraq war instead of just saying, "Look, I was for it just like 70% of America until we learned the truth, and now I'm against it, like the majority of Americans are now."

Kerry needs to trust that his victory is only going to happen by inspiring the natural base of the Democratic Party ?- blacks, working people, women, the poor and young people. Women and people of color make up 62% of this country. That's a big majority. Give them a reason to come out on Nov. 2.

DNC campaign heaquarters phone# 1-800-WHI-NERS

Press 1 to make a donation.

If you have questions for John Kerry just hang up.


Exceprt:

Sign of the times... Kerry was somewhere, preparing to deliver a stump speech (I actually think it may have been before or during his midnight speech to help get him back in the spotlight the night of the GOP Convention...)

An aide hands him a message, stating that Clinton was (sadly, yes) being admitted to the hospital for a bypass (and garnering the lionshare of the press for the 24/48 hour cycle....)

Kerry, obviously frustrated, put his hands on his hips.

Leave it to Clinton to steal Kerry's thunder--intentionally or not--at every turn.

As I did not listen to Bush's speech (no longer any credibility with me), I do not know but will assume that he mentionned "families" and "compassion". Just a guess on my part.

So, then, how does anyone reconcile those expressions with his actual ACTIONS during his term in office? The appointments listed below tell us more about Bush's true nature and agenda than any speech ever could. As most of these appointments fall way way below the radar screen of any media coverage, allow me to share them with you.


Bush chose Nancy Pfotenhauer, president and CEO of the right-wing Independent Women's Forum, to serve on the National Advisory Committee on Violence Against Women. The IWF actively opposed the Violence Against Women Act. According to IWF's web site, "The battered women's movement has outlived its useful beginnings."


Bush appointed Wade Horn as assistant secretary for family support in the U.S. Health and Human Services Department. As president of the National Fatherhood Institute, Horn said that low-income kids whose parents aren't married should be last in line for Head Start and other benefits. Horn tried to back away from tnese statements at his confirmation hearings. Then, after Horn's appointment, HHS began to offer special services to welfare recipients - if they agree to marry.


President Bush chose Leon Kass, MD to head the President's Council of Bioethics. Kass has written, "For the first time in human history, mature women by the tens of thousands live the entire decade of their twenties - their most fertile years - neither in the homes of their fathers nor in the homes of their husbands; unprotected, lonely, and out of sync with their inborn nature."


In June 2004, Bush re-appointed Dr. W David Hager to the Food and Drug Administration's Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee. Hager has written about Christ's ability to heal women's illnesses and reportedly refused to prescribe contraceptives to unmarried women. Hager was the leading force behind the FDA's rejection of over-the-counter sales of emergency contraception, over the overwhelming recommendation of two FDA advisory panels.


The Senate in July 2004 approved Bush's nomination of James Leon Holmes to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kansas. Bolmes, an anti-Abortion Rights activist, supports a Constitutional amendment to ban all abortions and said that "concern for rape victims is a red herring because conceptions from rape occur with approximately the same frequency as snowfall in Miami." Holmes has also spoken out against the separation of church and state, and co-wrote (with his wife) an article proclaiming that, "The wife is to subordinate herself to the husband... and... place herself under the authority of the man." Holmes' views on women's rights can be summed up in his belief that supporting feminism ultimately contributes "to the culture of death."



www.emilyslist.org

Incredible ! Bush has appointed people to positions on various councils of government who hold views opposed to those of Democrat interest groups. Worse, they are not endorsed by the authors of "Emily's List".

Gosh !

Are they positions with which YOU agree ?

angie--

Why have you posted this article in three different threads?

It's relevant, don't you think?

And why, Sofia, have you chosen not to respond to the contents of the list ?

Its not relevant times 3. I think it's poor manners to post the same thing several times in different threads.

I've seen little bits gathered like this plenty of times. Its not worth my effort. Take the one that has Bush appointing a woman to the VAWA. So, obviously, Bush likes his women beat down, eh? Is that your gist? Bush: Pro-violence against women. Get real.

Most of the time one or two points on a list like that may have substanitive merit, and the rest are just spin. But it's NEVER as bad as Emily's List or Planned Parenthood, or MoveOn try to make it sound. To find out which is partially substanitive and which is utter bullshit --I have to devote my time researching...

As I know how it will turn out--generally--I won't waste my time.

I did look in on the VAWA appointment and the Holmes thing.

Both BS.

The Violence Against Women Act is crap to most Republicans and individualists, and people with common sense.

There is already a law against violence. It should cover men, women, gays, children, blacks, ugly people, mothers... Just enforce the existing laws--instead of writing separate laws for ever possible demographic known to man. This is political grandstanding by Democrats to give their usual PACs a reach around.

They love to make new laws, but hate to enforce them. Useless!

"I think it's poor manners to post the same thing several times in different threads."

And are you the A2K manners police?


If you believe the information given in the list is BS, so be it. I have a feeling many/most women would have a different view.

Goodnight all !

Oh. She really got me with that manners police line.

While leaving in a lightning fast bolt--and not explaining why there is a need for this Violence Against Women Act...