Reply
Tue 31 Aug, 2004 02:32 pm
After the two plan crashes:
10 die in Moscow blast
Quote:TEN people were killed today in an explosion outside a Moscow subway station shortly after rush hour, a spokesman for Russia's FSB security service said.
The spokesman, Sergei Ignatchenko, said 33 people were injured in the blast. Another official spoke of 37 hurt.
Several children were reported wounded in the blast. The Moscow mayor, Yury Luzhkov, blamed the blast on an act of terrorism, but other officials said they were looking into all leads.
"With a great deal of probability it can be said we are talking about a premeditated explosion carried out by a terrorist female suicide bomber," an interior ministry official told journalists earlier.
The explosion caused carnage outside the station and came just a week after 90 people were killed in twin plane crashes classified by Russian officials as "terrorist acts".
Investigators have indicated that they suspect that the plane attack was carried out by two female Chechen suicide bombers.
Link
bold, but I think the chechnya rebels are better organized because they are smaller than Al- Quaida, of course.
I also belive, that both have no connection. In contrast to the politicians, which says the have.
A wave attacks from the rebels, at first:
Moscow Rail Station Evacuated on Bomb Threat, Interfax Says
Quote:Moscow police are conducting a partial evacuation at the Kursk railway station in central Moscow as they search for explosives after receiving an anonymous phone call from a man threatening to detonate a bomb at the station, Interfax news service reported.
Train services at the station haven't been disrupted, the news service said, citing the Interior Ministry's department on railway transport.
A suicide bomber last night detonated an explosive device near a subway station entrance in northern Moscow, killing 10 people and injuring 51, in the third terrorist attack in the country in one week. A group calling itself the Islambouli Brigades claimed responsibility for the blast in a statement posted on an Islamic Web site, according to Agence France-Presse.
url
Update summary
The assailants use children as human shields, but later they removed the children.
Already at least 2 dead on battle in front of the house.
Demand at first: Release from all fighter from Cechnya and withdraw of the Russian troops.
flash:
15 children had been released
Just concerning your headline Thok: I seriously doubt whether these terrorists are real Chechens, or Wahhabists fighting in Chechnya against what they believe is the Russian oppressor. I learned there is a difference after I read a book about the conflict by - I guess her name was - Anne Nuvat (or something like that), a French journalist.
For the rest: keep doing the good work Thok
Her name is Anne Nivat. I know she, but I not read until now her book.
So what have she said about this in general?
Rick d'Israeli wrote:
For the rest: keep doing the good work Thok
well,well.
Anne Nivat, yes. Well, in a nutshell, she said that there are basically three to four fighting parties in Chechnya: the Russian Army, the "normal" Chechen rebels - who want independence from Russia -, and the Wahhabists, mostly foreign Muslim fighters from the Middle East, although there are more and more Chechens joining their ranks. The fourth fighting party could be seen as Chechens, backed by Russia, fighting the others. Now, Anne Nivat spend some time in Chechnya - illegally, because she was not permitted to enter Chechnya. What she noticed, was that the average Chechen hated Russians as much as what they saw as "foreign scumbags" - the Wahhabists. Although Chechens are Muslims, the way of Islam they follow is considerably moderate, influenced by traditional beliefs. They could not identify themselves with the so-called "Muslim brothers" (Wahhabists) who came to Chechnya to "save their Muslim brothers and sisters" (the Chechens), and who were actually making the conflict to escalate, because they did not - and do not - want to talk with the Russian government. In a nutshell.
Really interesting, but also apparent. It is still the Russia-Cechnya conflict.
Well, my point was, that it could indeed be part of the Russian-Chechnyan conflict, but the people who have done these things could as well be non-Chechens. Maybe I'm whining too much
Rick d'Israeli wrote: Maybe I'm whining too much
yes :wink:
Because on your before last post, do you have this opinion not mentioned.
Day 2 on the school siege and authorities hold preliminary talks with the rebels.
Now it will be serious, because two explosions were heard one inside, the other outside the building.
This is serious all the time - in my opinion, at least.
Still unclear, if two (CNN/AP) or three explosions ( gaseta.ru/ITERTASS), cars burning (AFP) ...
Walter Hinteler wrote:This is serious all the time
yes, but now really dangerous for the hostages and relatives as well as all people around.
Thok wrote:Walter Hinteler wrote:This is serious all the time
yes, but now really dangerous for the hostages and relatives as well as all people around.
Up to 12 persons are shot until now and that's not serious???
(Even at the beginning, there had been three persons shot in the head, one of them a father, who tried to save his children.)
er, well, sorry.
As recently as now there is the information that between 7 and 16 are killed.
The drama goes ahead.
Now there are 3 women and 3 children freed.