Yes, I said it was a charade to be calling it a "coup", which was neither illegal or violent, according to the definition of the word.
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Anyway, it will the same ruling, thieving elites who will take over the nominal leadership position.
Quite unfortunately I agree. But I hold out hope for continued change and continued maturation of the young Brazilian democracy.
Does it matter that much if Dilma was really guilty of anything?
To me this is crucial to stopping corruption. If she is guilty yes that is the only
thing that matters. Too often the corrupt are excused for other pragmatic reasons and this is how such systemic corruption gets entrenched.
In Brazil it is just expected that everyone will be corrupt, and until ALL corruption is rejected it will always be that way, because otherwise everyone will excuse the corruption of their guys, the ones they side with.
She borrowed on a much bigger scale than her predecessors, but so what?
If it were legal I wouldn't care. But if it is not legal, as I am led to believe, then this matters. It was cooking the books to get reelected, and while that is a much smaller crime than the corruption others are being accused of if she is guilty of it that matters.
It became a great great excuse to cause an impeachment stir and divert attention from the overt Petrobras ripoff. She and Lula will retire on what they secretly looted and stashed away somewhere. Even if she was still the president, the system would remain the same anyway.
As the chairperson of the board of Petrobras during the bribery I think she holds responsibility for presiding over such corruption and even though she is not personally implicated yet I find it likely that she participated in it (and it seems clear that Lula did).
No one at the top in the US went to jail for their economic crimes for the subprime ripoff and it will surprise me if anyone at the top in Brazil will go to prison, much as I would like to see it in both countries.
What crimes were those? What they did was legal as far as I am aware. The US regulations loosened the capital requirements of banks and they gambled accordingly. I am not aware of anyone major Wall Street institution or person guilty of crimes related to that that were not punished.
And Brazil has already had at least one conviction and hopefully we'll see more. I get the despair about the powerful doing harm with impunity but I think Brazil's actually maturing here, when I lived in Brazil the same corruption was happening and we didn't even get to hear about it, it wasn't even investigated. That the investigations are happening, and that it can take down leaders should embolden Brazilians in their fight against their corrupt leaders.
Admittedly this is an optimistic viewpoint from a person who is inherently optimistic but I do see positive signs in this mess, even if the short term political result is saddening.