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If Trump gets to be elected President...

 
 
Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2016 11:30 am
@Banana Breath,
So by your own post, you admit that Hillary served the same number of terms as all but one of the rest of the Secretaries of State in the last forty years. Actually, Hillary has served as long or longer than all but three Secretaries of State since the end of WWII.

Let me make this real simple for you: The Secretary of State normally serves ONE TERM or less. That is customary. Quite a few of them serve considerably less than one term. Those are the ones who might have been "kicked out". Not the ones who serve the customary one term.
revelette2
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2016 12:55 pm
A monster the media created

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On Wednesday, May 4, less than 24 hours after Donald Trump won the Indiana GOP primary and became the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, "NBC Nightly News" did not just report the news, they let Trump take over their newscast. NBC originated its broadcast from Trump Tower in Manhattan. And for a full eight minutes at the top of the show, anchor Lester Holt interviewed Trump live from his office -- with no opportunity to respond provided to Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders or any political commentator.

That same morning Trump had appeared live and unfiltered -- by phone -- on NBC, ABC, Fox News and MSNBC. Not even the president would enjoy that kind of coverage. But, in a way, it was the fitting end to Trump's primary campaign: the national media, in effect, placing the presidential crown on the head of the candidate they created in the first place. Having succeeded in making him the GOP nominee, the media are now determined to make him the next president of the United States.

How did Donald Trump, a man with no elective experience, manage to beat out a field of 16 other candidates that included nine current or former governors and five current or former United States senators? Thank his enablers. Thank the media.

Or, better yet, belittle the media, which is what President Obama did at last weekend's White House Correspondents' Dinner. After poking fun at Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, the president told reporters he didn't want "to spend too much time on The Donald." Nervous laughter crept across the ballroom as Obama dropped the hammer: "Following your lead, I wanted to show some restraint. Because I think we can all agree that from the start, he's gotten the appropriate amount of coverage, befitting the seriousness of his candidacy."

Spot on. From the beginning, coverage of "The Donald" has been so inappropriate, so fawning, so nonstop, and so over the top that it's hard to tell who's the bigger media whore, the candidate or network executives. Even when Trump said something truly outrageous -- like banning all Muslims from entering the country, simply because they were Muslim -- the coverage was always of the "can you believe he said that?" variety, but never "this man is such a racist he should never be taken seriously."

Of course, there's a good, albeit cynical, reason the networks give Trump so much airtime. "Trumpmania" is good for their bottom line. Why else would they carry an entire hour-long Trump rally live, when other candidates would be lucky to get an honorable mention? Because ratings soar whenever he appears on their air, and the more outrageous things he says, the more controversy he stirs up, the better.

But what's good for the networks is even better for Trump. Back in March 2016, according to the media tracking firm mediaQuant, the New York mogul had already received $1.9 billion in free media exposure since announcing for president on June 16, 2015 -- and that windfall has only multiplied many times since. Trump far outpaced every one of his Republican rivals and more than doubled the $746 million in media attention paid to Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders clocked in at $321 million in coverage; Ted Cruz, at $313 million; Marco Rubio, $202 million; and John Kasich, $38 million.

Again according to mediaQuant, Trump even outpaced celebrities Taylor Swift ($497 million), Kim Kardashian ($250 million) and Kanye West ($234 million) in free publicity. But for his rival political candidates especially, it wasn't what you'd call a level playing field. As Rand Paul acidly observed when asked on Fox News what was behind Donald Trump's surge in the polls, "It could be the free billion dollars of publicity he has gotten by being on every channel all the time."

Of course, the big payoff for Donald Trump was: the more free media he received, the less he had to spend on his own campaign. According to the Federal Elections Commission, Trump spent less than any other presidential primary front-runner in the last 16 years. Through the end of February, he had spent only $33 million to win 19 state primaries. Never has one presidential candidate spent so little to win so much.

And, for all their adoring coverage, what did the media deliver? The least experienced, least knowledgeable and least qualified presidential nominee of our lifetime. As President Obama chided reporters at last Saturday's correspondents' dinner, "I hope you are all proud of yourselves."

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Banana Breath
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2016 08:55 pm
@Blickers,
Quote:
Hillary served the same number of terms as all but one of the rest of the Secretaries of State in the last forty years.

This would be a good time for you to learn the meaning of a statistically meaningful sample size. There were only three administrations in the past 40 years in which a Secretary of State COULD have served more than one term. One did indeed serve longer than one term and it was NOT Hillary. But for you to hinge any statistical importance to what happened within only three administrations is simply ludicrous, evincing painful ignorance. We'll have to make do with the far simpler and obvious conclusion that Hillary simply wasn't good enough, reliable enough, trustworthy enough or in any other way adequate in the job of Secretary of State for Obama to keep her past the first term.
Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2016 09:29 pm
@Banana Breath,
Let's look at the record of presidents and Secretaries of State.

Truman........... 2 terms, 3 Secretaries of State
Eisenhower..... 2 Terms, 2 Secretaries of State
Kennedy..........0.75 Terms, 1 Secretary of State
Johnson.......... 1.25 Terms, 0 Secretary of State, (continued Kennedy's Sec)
Nixon..............1.3 Terms, 2 Secretaries of State
Ford................0.7 Terms, 0 Secretary of State, (continued Nixon's Sec)
Carter..............1 Term, 2 Secretaries of State
Reagan............2 Terms, 2 Secretaries of State
Bush 41.......... 1 Term, 2 Secretaries of State
Bill Clinton......2 Terms, 2 Secretaries of State
Bush 43.......... 2 Terms, 2 Secretaries of State
Obama............2 terms, 2 Secretaries of State

There are no presidents since WWII who got elected to more than one term and had less than two Secretaries of State. Hillary was Obama's Secretary of State for his first term, John Kerry was Obama's Secretary of State for his Obama's second term. This is normal.

You post nonsense.
Banana Breath
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2016 09:49 pm
@Blickers,
Once again you try to assert "normal" based on far too small a sample size. Since you're obviously deeply ignorant on the understanding of statistical assertions, confidence intervals, and the proper use of "normal," I suggest you start educating yourself by reading the Wikipedia article on "confidence intervals:"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval
Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 8 May, 2016 10:55 pm
@Banana Breath,
I have confidence that, going back to the end of WWII, no Secretary of State has started any President's first term and gone on to finish that president's second term. I have given you the list of presidents and how many Secretaries of State they have had-do you need it again? Look two posts above this one.

You are holding it against Hillary that she did what is normal for Secretaries of State appointed to begin the President's first term-which is to leave after the first term. Just like all the others. And from the end of WWII to now is pretty much a full lifetime.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 9 May, 2016 08:31 am
Hillary Clinton could not have ran for president AND served as secretary of state at the same time. It's extremely tough for presidents to do that and they have huge staffs of support.
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