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Media finally investigating Bush Swift Boat smear of Kerry

 
 
Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 09:56 am
Be sure to read the complete story; the truth is finally coming out about Bush's disgusting phony smear campaign. ---BBB

Friendly Fire: The Birth of an Anti-Kerry Ad
By KATE ZERNIKE and JIM RUTENBERG
Published: August 20, 2004
New York Times

After weeks of taking fire over veterans' accusations that he had lied about his Vietnam service record to win medals and build a political career, Senator John Kerry shot back yesterday, calling those statements categorically false and branding the people behind them tools of the Bush campaign.

His decision to take on the group directly was a measure of how the group that calls itself Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has catapulted itself to the forefront of the presidential campaign. It has advanced its cause in a book, in a television advertisement and on cable news and talk radio shows, all in an attempt to discredit Mr. Kerry's war record, a pillar of his campaign.

How the group came into existence is a story of how veterans with longstanding anger about Mr. Kerry's antiwar statements in the early 1970's allied themselves with Texas Republicans.

Mr. Kerry called them "a front for the Bush campaign" - a charge the campaign denied.

A series of interviews and a review of documents show a web of connections to the Bush family, high-profile Texas political figures and President Bush's chief political aide, Karl Rove.

Records show that the group received the bulk of its initial financing from two men with ties to the president and his family - one a longtime political associate of Mr. Rove's, the other a trustee of the foundation for Mr. Bush's father's presidential library. A Texas publicist who once helped prepare Mr. Bush's father for his debate when he was running for vice president provided them with strategic advice. And the group's television commercial was produced by the same team that made the devastating ad mocking Michael S. Dukakis in an oversized tank helmet when he and Mr. Bush's father faced off in the 1988 presidential election.

The strategy the veterans devised would ultimately paint John Kerry the war hero as John Kerry the "baby killer" and the fabricator of the events that resulted in his war medals. But on close examination, the accounts of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth' prove to be riddled with inconsistencies. In many cases, material offered as proof by these veterans is undercut by official Navy records and the men's own statements.

Several of those now declaring Mr. Kerry "unfit" had lavished praise on him, some as recently as last year.

In an unpublished interview in March 2003 with Mr. Kerry's authorized biographer, Douglas Brinkley, provided by Mr. Brinkley to The New York Times, Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group, allowed that he had disagreed with Mr. Kerry's antiwar positions but said, "I am not going to say anything negative about him." He added, "He's a good man."

In a profile of the candidate that ran in The Boston Globe in June 2003, Mr. Hoffmann approvingly recalled the actions that led to Mr. Kerry's Silver Star: "It took guts, and I admire that."

George Elliott, one of the Vietnam veterans in the group, flew from his home in Delaware to Boston in 1996 to stand up for Mr. Kerry during a tough re-election fight, declaring at a news conference that the action that won Mr. Kerry a Silver Star was "an act of courage." At that same event, Adrian L. Lonsdale, another Vietnam veteran now speaking out against Mr. Kerry, supported him with a statement about the "bravado and courage of the young officers that ran the Swift boats."

"Senator Kerry was no exception," Mr. Lonsdale told the reporters and cameras assembled at the Charlestown Navy Yard. "He was among the finest of those Swift boat drivers."

Those comments echoed the official record. In an evaluation of Mr. Kerry in 1969, Mr. Elliott, who was one of his commanders, ranked him as "not exceeded" in 11 categories, including moral courage, judgment and decisiveness, and "one of the top few" - the second-highest distinction - in the remaining five. In written comments, he called Mr. Kerry "unsurpassed," "beyond reproach" and "the acknowledged leader in his peer group."

The Admiral Calls

It all began last winter, as Mr. Kerry was wrapping up the Democratic nomination. Mr. Lonsdale received a call at his Massachusetts home from his old commander in Vietnam, Mr. Hoffmann, asking if he had seen the new biography of the man who would be president.

Mr. Hoffmann had commanded the Swift boats during the war from a base in Cam Ranh Bay and advocated a search-and-destroy campaign against the Vietcong - the kind of tactic Mr. Kerry criticized when he was a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War in 1971. Shortly after leaving the Navy in 1978, he was issued a letter of censure for exercising undue influence on cases in the military justice system.

Click on page 2 at the bottom of the article to continue the full story:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?hp
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:04 am
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-swiftboat20aug20,1,6484859.story?coll=la-home-politics

Kerry Starts Firing Back at Critics of War Record
Saying vets' ad is doing Bush's 'dirty work,' he invites comparison with the president's service.
By Matea Gold and Maria L. La Ganga, Times Staff Writers
August 20, 2004

BOSTON ?- Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry on Thursday lashed back for the first time against a group of Vietnam veterans critical of his wartime service, accusing them of doing President Bush's "dirty work" and suggesting that he, in turn, would challenge Bush's military record.

Two weeks after the veterans launched a television ad questioning Kerry's actions in Vietnam, the back-and-forth over the former Navy lieutenant's record envelops the campaign, as newfound records undercut the credibility of one of his critics.

During a speech to several thousand firefighters, Kerry directly challenged allegations by the group, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, that he concocted his wartime injuries for political gain.

"More than 30 years ago, I learned an important lesson: When you're under attack, the best thing to do is turn your boat into the attacker. That's what I intend to do today," he told members of the International Assn. of Fire Fighters.

"Thirty years ago, official Navy reports and every person there documented my service in Vietnam and awarded me the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Thirty years ago, this was the plain truth. It still is. And I still carry the shrapnel in my leg from a wound in Vietnam."

Kerry's angry response Thursday marks an abrupt shift in strategy for the candidate, who had let surrogates address the accusations. Not only did the Massachusetts senator strike back personally, his campaign produced a new television ad defending his service, a slew of military records and a clutch of fellow veterans to testify to his actions.

The Swift boat group had run a 30-second television ad in three battleground states challenging the basis of Kerry's war record, saying he lied about his experiences, didn't deserve his medals and betrayed fellow servicemen by protesting the war after returning to the U.S. Though limited in its initial reach, the ad quickly gathered steam as a point of debate on websites, talk shows and cable television.

The campaign's full-front attack Thursday amounted to recognition that the anti-Kerry group's accusations could tarnish one of his greatest assets ?- his decorated military service.

The attacks may have already hurt. According to a new poll by CBS News, Kerry has lost ground among veterans since the Democratic National Convention, when he ran neck and neck with Bush among those voters. Now, the president has an 18-point lead among that group, according to the poll, which surveyed 1,009 adults nationwide.

Meanwhile, newly released military records Thursday contradicted an account given by Larry Thurlow, a Swift boat group veteran who disputes that Kerry came under fire during a 1969 mission on the Bay Hap River. Kerry won a Bronze Star for his actions that day, when he fished a Green Beret officer out of the water.

A document recommending Thurlow for a Bronze Star said that his boat, along with Kerry's and three others, fielded constant enemy fire that day, according to the Washington Post. Thurlow insisted Thursday that the records were based on Kerry's account; he maintained his contention that Kerry lied about enemy fire.

None of the men in the Swift boat group behind the anti-Kerry ad, including Thurlow, served on Kerry's patrol boat during the war. A Times review of their accusations found that, in addition to Thurlow, other members also had given contradictory accounts of incidents and offered evidence of Kerry's alleged wrongdoing based on memories of events that they say they witnessed from a boat or two away.

Military documents and accounts of crewmates who did serve with Kerry support the view put forth by the candidate and his campaign ?- that he acted courageously and came by his five medals honestly.

But the Swift boat group is standing by its account and announced Thursday that it would unveil a new ad today.

Kerry, in his speech to firefighters, noted that Robert J. Perry, a Texas developer and longtime contributor to Bush, had given the group $200,000. Harlan Crow of Dallas, a commercial real estate developer,

gave the group $25,000 on May 10.

The anti-Kerry ad aired in Wisconsin, Ohio and West Virginia from Aug. 5 to Aug. 12.

"They're a front for the Bush campaign," Kerry said. "And the fact that the president won't denounce what they're up to tells you everything that you need to know ?- he wants them to do his dirty work."

Kerry suggested that he would challenge Bush's service record in the Texas Air National Guard, signaling a personal turn in the debate over the candidates' wartime credentials.

"The president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country," he said. "Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: Bring it on!"

The Bush campaign denied that the president was backing the group. Bush, the White House and the campaign again declined to denounce the ad.

"Sen. Kerry knows President Bush has called his service in Vietnam noble," said spokesman Steve Schmidt, adding that Bush had also called for an end to campaign advertising by independent groups.

Russell also denied that the group was supported by the Bush campaign, calling Kerry's comments predictable.

"We know the laws and we abide by them," said Russell, noting that the group was an independent committee.

Initially, Kerry largely ignored the group and its ad. When the Swift boat group's ad was released, he was in the middle of a post-convention, cross-country campaign swing, and aides said he did not want to give his critics more attention by responding directly.

But the anti-Kerry veterans ?- and their challenge of Kerry's credibility ?- continued to gain notice. Since the ad debuted, the group has raised $450,000 from more than 10,000 contributors, largely through the group's website.

Meanwhile, some of Kerry's fellow veterans urged David Thorne, a close friend and advisor, to persuade the candidate to respond more forcefully.

"I think every veteran familiar with the situation who heard what was running around was enraged," said Paul Nace, a longtime friend who served with Kerry in the Navy. "And so I think all of us wanted the campaign to get John and everybody else to respond."

Kerry reversed course Wednesday night after arriving in Boston from a campaign trip to Cincinnati. As his motorcade pulled up to his Beacon Hill townhouse, he asked senior advisor David Morehouse, communications director Stephanie Cutter and press secretary David Wade to come inside.

With campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill on the phone, Kerry told his aides, "I think it's time to go at this."

Aides hired a delivery service to drive through the night from Washington, D.C., to Boston with thick, bound copies of Kerry's naval records to distribute to reporters traveling with the candidate.

The campaign also cut a commercial overnight that features former Green Beret Jim Rassmann testifying about how Kerry pulled him from the river in the middle of battle.

The ad is set to air today in Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin ?- the same states where the Swift boat group aired its spot. In airing it, the campaign reversed a decision to hold off on new TV ads until September.

Meanwhile, the campaign has hired Joe Lockhart, a Clinton White House spokesman, and Joel Johnson, a lobbyist who also worked for President Clinton, to help respond to attacks.

Cutter said that if charges about Kerry's service continued, the candidate would "talk comparatively" about his military record and that of Bush, who has been shadowed by questions about whether he fulfilled his service while in the Texas Air National Guard.

Kerry has reversed himself several times on whether he thinks it's appropriate to go after Bush's military service record.

In February, when other Democrats demanded that Bush release his military records, Kerry said he would not pursue such a line of attack. Then in April, when critics accused Kerry of lying about throwing away his military decorations during a war protest, he fired back by charging that Bush could not account for all his time in the Air National Guard.

But this week, Kerry condemned as "inappropriate" an ad by an anti-Bush group that accused the president of using family connections to avoid combat in Vietnam, even as some of his surrogates repeated the ad's charges in a press conference arranged by the campaign.

On Thursday, Kerry said: "I'm not going to let anyone question my commitment to defending America ?- then, now, or ever."
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Gold reported from Boston, La Ganga from San Francisco.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:10 am
Kerry is 'firing' back but has yet to answer any of the charges, he's deflecting because he is scared to death.

His campaign is built on a house of cards and he knows it.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:13 am
when it comes to houses of cards , both camps seem to have a lot more jokers than aces.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:13 am
Unfit for bookstores
Just for once, I would like to see the Bush family's history of using disgusting smear tactics to gain and retain political power for their family dynasty exposed by the Media. Maybe this time, Bush has gone too far and their latest smear campaign against Kerry and other military service veterans will backfire on them. Have they no shame? ---BBB

Unfit for bookstores
The Kerry campaign calls on a conservative publisher to withdraw book after the Washington Post torpedoes the veracity of a Swift boat veteran.
By Eric Boehlert
Media Matters
Aug. 19, 2004 |

The Kerry campaign has told Salon that the publisher of "Unfit for Command," the book that is at the center of the attack on Kerry's military record by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, is retailing a hoax and should consider withdrawing it from bookstores.

"No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them, especially falsehoods that are meant to smear the military service of an American veteran," said Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton. "If I were them, I'd be ducking under my desk wondering what to do. This is a serious problem."

Even some uncomfortable Republicans might breathe a sigh a relief if "Unfit for Command" were to vanish from bookstores: "I don't think the Swift Boat Veterans are helping the Republican cause," Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., remarked on CNN Thursday.
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:17 am
Brand X wrote:
Kerry is 'firing' back but has yet to answer any of the charges, he's deflecting because he is scared to death.

His campaign is built on a house of cards and he knows it.


There is nothing to answer, the accusations are bogus and the official record speaks for itself.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:17 am
Well, you know Kerry has stopped publication of another book before. You remember his early '70's tome, 'The New Soldier,' the one with the idiots carrying the American flag upside down! I wonder why he wouldn't want that one to be in the bargain bin at Barnes and Noble...
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 10:49 am
Brand X is wrong again re Kerry's book
Brand X wrote:
Well, you know Kerry has stopped publication of another book before. You remember his early '70's tome, 'The New Soldier,' the one with the idiots carrying the American flag upside down! I wonder why he wouldn't want that one to be in the bargain bin at Barnes and Noble...


It seems you are wrong again, Brand X. The following books by John Kerry are still for sale at Amazon.com, including the "New Soldier" you wrongly claim was pulled by Kerry.

Advertised as of 8/20/04 on Amazon.Com:

New Soldier
by John Kerry, David Thorne (Editor)
Availability: Usually ships within 1-2 business days
Edition: Paperback

Other books by John Kerry available via Amazon.com:

A Call to Service by John Kerry
John Kerry (It's Happening to U.S.)
The New War by John Kerry
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:38 am
Good! I'm glad I was wrong, peolple need to see it, especially now.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:47 am
Brand X wrote:
Good! I'm glad I was wrong, peolple need to see it, especially now.


Why don't you get some war comic collectors together and form a citizen group to make sure of it? I'm sure you could find a few rich bush campaign contributors to fund it.....
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:50 am
Bad Bear . . . Brand X may be partisan to a degree which you do not like, but he always behaves the gentleman in his exchanges here . . .


He cannot help it if he is a horribly mutated wabbit . . .
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:51 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Brand X wrote:
Good! I'm glad I was wrong, peolple need to see it, especially now.


Why don't you get some war comic collectors together and form a citizen group to make sure of it? I'm sure you could find a few rich bush campaign contributors to fund it.....


The irony is the same amount of fiction would be found in both Kerry's war stories and the comics themselves.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:54 am
Setanta wrote:
Bad Bear . . . Brand X may be partisan to a degree which you do not like, but he always behaves the gentleman in his exchanges here . . .


He cannot help it if he is a horribly mutated wabbit . . .


I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about......ya try to post a helpful suggestion....<<harumph>> :wink:
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:55 am
Laughing
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Karzak
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 11:59 am
Re: Brand X is wrong again re Kerry's book
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

It seems you are wrong again, Brand X. The following books by John Kerry are still for sale at Amazon.com, including the "New Soldier" you wrongly claim was pulled by Kerry.


LOL, I hope all your research isn't this poor, "new soldier" was pulled, try to actually buy it at amazon!
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swolf
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 12:01 pm
de nile...

http://www.root.or.jp/nanta/etiopia/etiopia-image/blue-nile.JPG

My suggestion to some of you demmunists watching in dismay as the gigolo's campaign implodes here would be to ask yourselves how you (and the demmy party) came to such a pass.

The basic answer is that the dem party HAD more viable candidates than the gigolo (not that any RATIONAL person would vote for but easily more viable), but that the Clinton blackops squads torpedoed all of them to keep the way clear for H. Clinton's run for it in 08.

As you watch the dem party being swept into the trash bins of history in a 50-state blowout this november, remember to say

"Thank you, Slick!".
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Karzak
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 12:05 pm
Will, if kerry wins hillary has to delay her bid to 2012, so the clintons put up someone that made slick willy look like a saint.

Scarey Kerry quite contrary, how did your service go?
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braindonor
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 12:08 pm
There are 5 copies of New Soldier available on Amazon, starting at $475. Kerry does not want the book read. He may not now believe any of what he wrote back then (if he indeed believes anything), but it is safe to say that it would be embarrasing to him.

The idea that Unfit for Command should be pulled, while Mike Moore's 911 is left alone (and incredibly gets good reviews from some mainstream critics) is amazing.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 12:10 pm
I am sure going to enjoy posting to this thread in a few months, say November 4th. Theres gonna be some good old-fashioned shoe eating...
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Brand X
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2004 12:11 pm
Aha, thanks for that, doesn't sound like a bargain bin price at all.
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