Which Religion is the One True Religion?

"Finding fault with the actions of some (or many) religionists proves nothing." That's the nub of religion; it doesn't matter.

"Hi Imposter,

Since you are a professed atheist, I'd like you to explain, if you will, what qualifies someone as a "good human" and why you as an atheist think it is important to be a "good human"."

I know you still don't have a clue, but it's not somebody who claims he's a "christian."

Atheism is hardly "at the core of the communist belief system." Marx described religion as the opiate of the masses. He didn't condemn theism, just religion. It was a decision of state policy in the Soviet Union to outlaw organized religion, not a belief in god per se. That many citizens of the Soviet Union became accidental atheists is not to be wondered at. At no time in history has "atheism" called for a crusade to destroy those with whom an atheist might disagree on a religious basis. However, the same certainly cannot be said of religion.

It is convenient to distort the truth for your argument, and typical of the religionist.

"OK we now know what you think it is not. But what is it?"

Why do I need to answer your question if you can't figure it out for yourself? All judgements are very subjective.

RexRed wrote:

timberlandko wrote:

I believe you should look to your own imprecision, real life - you ascribe to others that which they have not claimed. Counter the arguments as they are presented, not as you prefer to characterize them.

For instance, neither Frank nor I say "There is no God", we say there is no forensically valid, scientifically derived, independently corroborated, logically developed evidence that there is, and we say the same goes for the argument there isn't. Faith, Belief, are not knowledge, and passion is not evidence. Show me the evidence, either way. I'm willing to learn, to be taught. Just give me something that makes sense. Anecdotes, aphorisms, myths, and fairytales don't cut it. What else have you got?


Oh and BTW - you have a very imprecise vision of what is admissable evidence under law and of what constitutes challenge to testimony. If ever pressed in a legal matter, you would be well advisded to seek expert counsel as opposed to undertaking to represent yourself before the bench.

Creation equals existence... isn't that logical?

No....not even a little.

If you want arbitrarily to call existence a "creation" so that you can posit a "creator"...do so. But don't pretend that it is logical by any stretch of the imagination.

It is an absolutely self-serving way of looking at things.

Your god, by the way, supposedly exists....but had no creator.

So you already acknowledge that a creator is not necessary for existence.

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Or would you say we don't exist? So are you saying that existence requires no action to bring it about?

There is absolutely nothing to require existence to have been "brought about." You see that....since you have a god that exists....but was not "brought about."

What is your problem?

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That is not very "logical".

What you are saying is not very logical.

real life, My values for right and wrong applies only to me. I'm not the one on a slippery slope. It's people like you who tries to live by other's values. I'm not here to establish values for other people to live by.

real life, My values for right and wrong applies only to me. I'm not the one on a slippery slope. It's people like you who tries to live by other's values. I'm not here to establish values for other people to live by.

I've not characterized you as evil or wanting to convert anyone to "the dark side." You just make yourself appear more ridiculous by making such a silly claim.

"Devout atheists?" That's truly hilarious. As it happens, in the treaty with the Bey of Algiers, the Fifth United States Congress asserted that the United States is not founded in any regard upon the Christian religion. Does that mean they rejected "god's morals" and replaced them with their-own man-made morals? You cannot demonstrate the existence of your fairy-tale deity, so why should anyone reasonably believe that the morality of which you speak is any less man-made?

You have avoided entirely the question of whether or not putative atheists have ever set out to destroy others because of their religious opinions. You have asserted that communists, acting apparently upon their alleged atheism, destroyed 100 million people--can you prove that? Can you prove that they were motivated by atheism?

Any time you're ready, i can write page after page on the willful campaigns to destroy others instigated by religionists who stated that their god authorized those murders. Any time you feel up to it.