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How have your political beliefs changed in the last 10 years?

 
 
Reply Wed 10 Feb, 2016 04:55 pm
In another thread some of the political evolutions of members on this site were being discussed and I found it very interesting. My own politics have evolved slightly in some areas over the last ten years as well (will add my own answer to the thread later) and I'm curious about what political evolutions others here have had in the last decade
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 02:25 pm

I used to see the Second Amendment as a single right, for people to become militiamen and keep automatic rifles at home.

I've since come to understand that there are multiple facets to the right -- for instance, people not in the militia have the right to carry guns suitable for self defense when they go about in public.

Also, people who are in the militia have the right to far more than automatic rifles. They also have the right to things like bazookas and Stinger missiles.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 02:38 pm
I would have been perfectly happy to vote Clinton, that far back. Now I can see that she does not stand for much that I stand for. I had some misgivings voting for Obama and held out for her to the end. Today, my driving desire is to see FDR's style of politics restored. I already felt that way ten years ago, but I believed Clinton would be a good start in that direction. So, if anything has changed, it is my assessment of the Democrats like her and Obama.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 02:42 pm
@edgarblythe,
Some of my political beliefs have gotten less sure footed. I've started writing about it on a note page to answer here, but I'm still cogitating.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 03:00 pm
I have been a liberal for 65 years. I still see the republicans as for the 1% and against anyone who isent a millionare. But I am a minority when it comes to congress. It is republican and except for the possibility that the senate may become slightly democratic in the next election I dont see any change in the house for the next 10 or 20 years. As long as the house is republican there isent a chance any democratic president will get any new iniciatives passed by congress. Bernie knows this after having spent 25 years in congress and is lying through his teeth when he tells everyone he is going to get the 1% out of government and raise taxes on the rich and send all our kids to collage for free and all the other bullshyt he is claiming he can do. Hillary is being honest about what she is trying to do but the voting public would rather believe the chicken in every pot and car in every garage Bernie is spreading. If he is the dem nominee the communist, socialist crap is going to elect a republican and a Republican Supreme Court will show you what a real political screwing looks like. But listen to the fairy tales Bernie and hid bunch tell because they are so much pleasing but if I am still around I dont want to hear any whining from the people who fell for a politician who lied his way into the white house.
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Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 03:10 pm
I have moved, in the last 10 years, from being a left wing supporter of the British Labour party, to a very left wing card carrying subscription paying member. I am a Corbynista!
Kolyo
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 09:56 pm
I still lean left, but I have a lot less faith in government to fix things than I used to.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 11 Feb, 2016 10:56 pm
10 years ago, I supported Bush, now I don't so much.

I have the same opinions on many hot button topics... Not pro-abortion, but if that's what people want to do then why should it matter to me? Gays should be able to do things they want to do. I think people should be allowed to own a lot of various guns so long as they aren't crazy or criminals. I think you get more out of life if you put effort into it, I am not in favor of a lot of handouts. I think charity starts at home and we give a lot to charities. I still don't trust the government ans wish they would stay out people's lives. I have become more of a federalist and think states should have more rights then the federal govt. I still am very pro capitalist, but I have friends that wonder why I am such a liberal in some details. I am still opposed to the general theme of the Democrat party and do not think they are good for the country. I wish banks had more regulations but small businesses have too many. I support single payer healthcare and I still support the way I laid it out here once awhile ago. I am torn about pharmaceutical companies making such huge profits. One hand they are in business to make money, but not at the sacrifice of people's lives. This a hard one for to come to terms with. I think Obama is an ok president, but only because he has really followed a lot of the Bush administration policies. Some of the stuff he does really pisses me off too. I still don't like Nancy Pelosi. I wish Paul Ryan is super successful in his house duties. I think McConnell looks like a turtle. I miss Jon Stewart, the new guys are too liberal. I listen to a Japanese Speed Metal band made up of teen girls and it is REALLY AWESOME!

A lot happens in 10 years.
revelette2
 
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Reply Sat 13 Feb, 2016 07:24 am
I used to be used to very liberal on everything but abortion. Now, some of my liberal stances have changed and I am not so stanch on abortion, although I still can't bring myself to agree with it, I have accepted that others do not feel it is murder. I guess I am a little less thinking the government can do everything for free than I used to be. I suppose listening to real self described socialist like Sanders has made me realize it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 13 Feb, 2016 09:14 am
@Tes yeux noirs,
Cheers!! I'm a Corbyn fan.
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 13 Feb, 2016 09:55 am
@edgarblythe,
I thought you didn't believe in miracles....
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 13 Feb, 2016 10:23 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
I am ready to modify my belief if Sanders can get elected.
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Sat 13 Feb, 2016 11:41 pm
10 years ago I worried about inequality, now I worry a lot more.
10 years ago I hardly worried about climate change. Now I do.
10 years ago I knew that the financial system, as it worked, was harmful. Now I tink it is a metastasis inside the economic structure.
10 years ago I was content with some reform, now I think something deeper has to change in order to avoid continuing social crisis. But I still loathe the populist left-wingers. They are no solution.
10 years ago I voted for the Socialdemocrat party, a very small group. The big left wing party in Mexico has split, with the populists going their own way, so I'd vote for this party on the left if the elections were held today (except if the populists have any chance of winning, then I'd vote for whoever can defeat them).
fbaezer
 
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Reply Sat 13 Feb, 2016 11:57 pm
As for American politics, I guess I am more of a " establishment" Democrat. Never believed much on young Obama, even if his speeches are often very good. I thought he wouldn't deliver and I think he didn't , and that it's not all because of the Republican Meanies, as some try to tell us.
Sanders says things that ring to my beliefs, but I think he's as difficult to elect as Trump, and that he wouldn't be able to deliver 5% of his promises.
In that, I think I have not changed on 10 years. But I do not live in the USA, so I don't really know what the feelings -and the personal experiences- are inside.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 14 Feb, 2016 06:02 am
@fbaezer,
Can I ask what populist left means where you are fbaezer?
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 14 Feb, 2016 06:08 am
I have become more convinced than ever before, and especially in the last five years or so, that capitalism, unrestrained, is a disease which is consuming human civilization, and will lead to disastrous consequences sooner rather than later.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 14 Feb, 2016 06:42 am
@Setanta,
Oh dear you got one right for a change but its amazing that you got to that conclusion only after the 2008 crash...smart you. Better late then never I guess.
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revelette2
 
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Reply Sun 14 Feb, 2016 08:09 am
@fbaezer,
It is true, Obama has not as of yet gotten a lot of his ideas through, however, I wouldn't exactly say he didn't deliver anything. I could list them, but anyone can google them.



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fbaezer
 
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Reply Sun 14 Feb, 2016 09:30 am
@dlowan,
It actually means one man, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, and his faithful and intollerant followers.
IMO he's no leftist, really. More of a Nacionalist.
Any one who disagrees with him is either a "member of the mafia" or a traitor.
He created his own party, Morena, where he plays as God.
He has no feasonable program, but is close to Venezuelan style "anti-imperialism". His economic policy is giveaways and subsidies.
He reaps on understandable public discontent. And discontent is growing.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 15 Feb, 2016 07:24 am
@Robert Gentel,
My political beliefs may have changed a bit but American politics itself has gone sideways...make that backwards. In fact, world politics has gone backwards. At a greater rate than ever, the rich get richer in the US. In some parts of the world, the rich kill the poor. Worse than that, the major powers, create or join in proxy wars.

It's beyond mind-boggling in this day and age, that war still exists. Especially with all of these technologies and abilities to grow and distribute food and solve environmental problems. Mankind is hung up on greed and more powerful people and/or countries controlling the less powerful.

My politics is a reflection and a reaction to this complex collection of insanity.
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