The family of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, through it's attorney, issued a statement calling the shooting death of the refuge occupier unjustified and accusing the FBI and Oregon State Police of a cover-up.
Based on the video and two eyewitness accounts, the statement said, "what we believe the video shows is that LaVoy was being fired upon before he even got out of the truck." The family commissioned its own autopsy on Finicum that was completed over the weekend, according to a family member.
The FBI has been unwilling to release details of exactly how many times and where Finicum was shot. "We believe he had already been shot before he ever lowered his hands," the statement continued. "We believe some of his hand movements were a natural reflex to being shot."
The family contends that the FBI released a grainy, edited video without audio in an attempt to "sway public opinion from the outset." Finicum's family called on the FBI to release all audio recordings from the shooting...They also requested all unedited video taken by drones, body cameras and dash cameras as well as close-up images of Finicum's truck after the shooting.
The Deschutes County Sheriff's Office announced Tuesday that an investigation into the shooting won't be released for another four to six weeks.
But, I think I'm gonna wait awhile yet.
The family contends that the FBI released a grainy, edited video without audio in an attempt to "sway public opinion from the outset."
On Sunday evening, January 31, 2016, I interviewed Shawna Cox on The Common Sense Show. After being shot at over 100 times, and lucky to be alive, Shawna was taken into custody.
...they were pulled over at the first roadblock. At first, neither side did anything in what could be described as a silent stand-off. The occupants of the vehicles were not given any instructions (e.g. to exit the vehicle, etc.). Finally, in an attempt to show peaceful intent, Ryan Payne put both hands out of the truck through the open window, to show he was not armed, and he was promptly shot at with the bullet striking metal of the truck between the window and the mirror.
Immediately after Finicum was killed, the truck came under fire. No orders were issued to the occupants, and as it was at the first roadblock, firing bullets at the occupants of the truck was the first order of the day.
Cox believes that the vehicle was struck at least one hundred times. Both women were hysterically screaming to “please stop shooting” as the two women were begging for their lives.
This entire event, complete with two roadblocks, unprovoked gunfire and FBI agents in the trees could only be described as an “old west ambush”.
With no movement in the truck, and after firing over 100 rounds, the FBI finally issued its first order to surrender. They ordered the male occupants out of the vehicle, followed by the females.
What did these seven occupants do to warrant a “shoot first order”? Shawna added, as a footnote, that when the last man was taken into custody, they were asked if there were any others left in the truck. They responded that they were the last. The FBI promptly proceeded to fire over 100 more rounds into the vehicle after the vehicle was vacated.
Hands Up, Don’t Execute
LaVoy Finicum, Michael Brown, and Identity Politics
Many liberals passed sentence on the Citizens for Constitutional Freedom (CCF) weeks ago....they were culturally unsympathetic criminals....many progressives called for these “militants” to be dealt with as “the terrorists they were”: lethally and with extreme prejudice. Besides, many said, the right-wing nuts were probably a bunch of Islamophobic racists.
The law-and-order left got what they wanted on Tuesday of last week, when several CCF members were ambushed on the road by the FBI and Oregon State Police. The killing was met mostly with approval or shrugs from progressives on social media.
During the Ferguson unrest, to the law-and-order right Michael Brown was just a “thug,” a known criminal who had recently shaken down a store. If he didn’t want to get shot, he shouldn’t have resisted a cop...
For the left, Michael Brown was a sympathetic figure (an underserved youth of color), so he had Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights which were violated by Officer Darren Wilson. On the other hand, LaVoy Finicum was an unsympathetic figure (a right-wing, gun-owning good ‘ol boy), and a potential threat, so he was fair game to be gunned down in the snow.
Both sides reduce all questions of justice to identity politics, and effectively treat rights as a sympathy-based concept. Both are blinded by their respective bigotries to the truth that rights are inherent to the individual, and are not based on group identity or cultural affinity.
Apparently your side is based on "You can never believe the law".
What I saw was a guy who first came out of his car with his hands raied and then seemed to go for something (I cant say it was a gun)
Then he was shot with what appeared a single hit cause he went down like a sack of cement
You have to consider "Assault by pickup" as a weapons related felony. Was that what he was doing?
After you get some sleep, go bck nd sample the segment where Vinny was plowing off the road.
No matter how many scare stories you’ve heard about criminals gaining super-human strength and immunity to pain from drug overdoses, Michael Brown was no imminent threat to the life of Darren Wilson. (Wilson testified that Brown, “…was almost bulking up to run through the shots…”)
And no matter how many cop movies you’ve seen where the surrendering perp kills an officer with a lightning-fast quick draw, LaVoy Finicum was no imminent threat to the lives of the agents and police surrounding him.
Neither LaVoy Finicum nor Michael Brown were killed in self-defense. Both were executed, and both for the same unwritten, age-old capital offense: lèse-majesté (literally “injured majesty”). Both had blasphemed the divine State by impudently defying its punitive priesthood (to use Will Grigg’s expression). And so examples were made out of both uppity peons, each time to the cheers of some of the State’s worshipful subjects, and each time as an object lesson for the rest.
I just watched the video from the chopper-cam and I didnt see what Id call any other shots except at the end when he dropped. .
When he looked like he was going for a gun, you say he was grabbing some wounds?
I didnt see what Id call any other shots except at the end when he dropped. .
But let's assume it was a felonious assault by pick-up, as you claim. Now what? Would that justify shooting him dead as soon as he got out of the truck, or while he was still in it after coming to a stop?
you seem to like running the possibilities without worrying about anything that smacks of evidence.
Both are blinded by their respective bigotries to the truth that rights are inherent to the individual, and are not based on group identity or cultural affinity.
What the Left and Right Both Get Wrong About the Oregon Militia Standoff
Imagine a serf is beaten by his master, who then says the beating was requested by a slave over some alleged transgression. Seeking vengeance, the beaten serf requests that the slave be beaten in return for his own misdeeds.
The master obliges, telling the slave that his beating was requested by the serf. The slave then retaliates likewise. The slave and the serf then become locked in a proxy war with each other, through the medium of their master.
They are so preoccupied with their enmity toward each other, they never even consider uniting against their true and common enemy. To the contrary, each becomes positively devoted to his master, as his chief champion against his perceived enemy. “If only I could finally get the master fully and finally on my side, then everything would be great!”
That is how the modern State divides and rules. Recent developments have shown how successful the American government has been in this regard.