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Fri 8 Jan, 2016 10:43 am
I've read up on as much as I can regarding that vs which but I'm still confused in the following context:
Which is correct:
Draw a picture that contains a tree.
Or
Draw a picture which contains a tree.
I realise it can be avoided by saying containing but would like to know which is correct!
@Adamridley,
This is really nit-picky stuff, but the answer is "That".
A clause with "which" is not essential to the sentence. Since the tree is essential to picture, you need that.
Another example.
The picture which contains a tree is on the wall.
The picture that contains a tree is on the wall.
The first sentence implies that the tree part is just informational. There is a picture on the wall and by the way it has a tree. The second implies that the tree is important. The picture I'm talking about is the one with the tree, not the one with an elephant.
@engineer,
The picture you mention--which incidentally does contain (show?) a tree--as you can see is on the wall just to your right
The only one showing a tree is posted with the others we've discussed directly in front of you to the upper left
Settling the issue, you'll find a snapshot containing a tree not at your feet but posted on the wall to your left, about in the middle and identified by the label, "See the dog urinate"
@Adamridley,
The answer in your specific example indicates proper grammar usage would be 'that':
Pls refer to the following:
http://www.writersdigest.com/online-editor/which-vs-that
In US English, only 'Draw a picture that contains a tree' is correct. That, whose, who, or whom can introduces a restrictive relative clause, and which, whose, who, or whom can introduce a non-restrictive relative clause.
In the sections of the world where British English is used, both words are equally correct to introduce a restrictive relative clause. Draw a picture that contains a tree; draw a picture which contains a tree, both are equally correct. Restrictive relative clauses can be introduced by that, which, whose, who, or whom, and a non-restrictive relative clause can be introduced by which, whose, who, or whom, but never that.
@Tes yeux noirs,
I al;ways said that we should use "That" cuz it sounds better.
Now I can sound like I know what the hell Im talking about.
Thankee.
@farmerman,
Won't folks accuse you of being Professor Limey-Milquetoast?
@Tes yeux noirs,
Ill kick their punk asses if they do. I havent kicked me a punk ass in many a year so I am quite looking forward to it actually.
@Adamridley,
Of course Adam "picture which" is alliterative
@dalehileman,
Wrong. please read the links provided. That is the choice as the suggested grammar.
@Ragman,
Rag sorry but you misunderstand. The alliterative, having nothing to do with grammar, is to be avoided in some situations, eg, conversational text
@dalehileman,
In what way is that alliterative?
Good grace, grab a grammar! Then gradually get a grain of grandiloquence or something gratifying..
@dalehileman,
I see absolutely no alliteration in OP query.
@Ragman,
Quote:no alliteration in OP
Sorry Rag that's as close as I could come without undertaking a major search in Reverse Dictionary, which incidentally I don't often find very useful
http://onelook.com/?w=alliteration&ls=a&loc=home_ac_alliteration
But I must say you fellas really do get highly technical
http://able2know.org/topic/308067-1
@dalehileman,
Sorry, Dale..once again you've totally lost me.
@Ragman,
Again sorry, Rag, but you had objected to "alliteration" as describing anything in the OP, whereupon I explained that perhaps that was the wrong word for a repeated sound in nearby words
@dalehileman,
oh.I guess the word assonance is what describes what you were looking for.