@layman,
Quote:Out of thousand of pages submitted by scientists, only politicians, striking bargains, etc., reduce the reports to about 25 pages which THEY want to present to the public.
I guess I should have said 13 pages. Some excerpts of the testimony or Richard Lindzen, MIT professor and lead IPCC author, before congress:
Quote:The IPCC was created in essence to support the negotiations, and without the negotiations, without the alarm, there would be no IPCC. It is not unusual that an organization has its own interests.
There is no way you can conveniently summarize 1,000 pages in 13. With respect to the chapter on the physics, we went to considerable pains pointing out all the problems of the models. The summary simply concludes, understanding of climate processes and their incorporation in climate models have improved...
It is frequently said the science is settled. This is often said without any statement as to exactly what is meant by this, and what relevance it has to the forecast being made. In point of fact, there are quite a few areas of agreement, and I think very few, if any of them, in any convincing way
point to disaster, despite scenario creations of the type that Dr. McCarthy spoke of. What is frequently not realized is, the statements are as
consistent with the statement that there will not be a problem as there will be a problem. They have very little substantive content, and yet they are perceived as having content.
This is part of our whole scenario system, where you no longer ask computer models to be correct. It is widely acknowledged that they are not. What you ask instead is that the projections be possible, and here the 1992 framework convention which we signed commits us to something called a precautionary principle, which now says all you have to do is suggest something is possible in order to need to act upon it.
I think it is extremely important in science policy, and that is where I have my own provincial interest, that we figure out how to support science without providing incentives for alarmism.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-107shrg88709/html/CHRG-107shrg88709.htm
"What you ask instead is that the projections be
possible, and here the 1992 framework convention which we signed commits us to something called a precautionary principle, which now says all you have to do is suggest something is possible in order to need to act upon it."
Another lead author, Trenberth, himself admits as much in a passage already quoted. To reiterate, he said:
Quote:In fact there are no predictions by IPCC at all. And there never have been. The IPCC instead proffers “what if” projections of future climate that correspond to certain emissions scenarios. There are a number of assumptions that go into these emissions scenarios. They are intended to cover a range of possible self consistent “story lines” that then provide decision makers with information about which paths might be more desirable..There is no estimate, even probabilistically, as to the likelihood of any emissions scenario and no best guess.
The IPCC merely gives you "what if projections" intended to cover a range of possible self consistent “story lines.,” eh? How cute.
That's all the IPCC is demanding...story lines which are at least
possible and which serves their ends.