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Help please - Need English to Latin translation

 
 
Reply Wed 4 Aug, 2004 03:22 pm
Howdy

Would like to translate "Born to lose" and "Live to win". Would "prognatus perdo" and "Degaro vici" work? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Eos
 
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Reply Wed 4 Aug, 2004 09:16 pm
Ok, but I need a little help here.

Who was (is) born to lose? Choose one:
(me) (you) (him) (her) (it) (us) (you plural) (them)

And when you say "live to win" is this the imperative "I order you to live to win" or a statement "They live to win" (in which case same question as above) or something else?
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hitbypitch
 
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Reply Thu 5 Aug, 2004 03:21 pm
Thanks for the reply. It would be "I was born to lose but I live to win".
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Eos
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2004 09:31 am
natus vinci vivo vincere
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hitbypitch
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2004 12:21 pm
Thank you.

edit: doesn't vinci translate to win though?
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Lucifer
 
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Reply Fri 6 Aug, 2004 07:23 pm
"Perdo" is I lose, but you can use infinitives. "Perdere" means to lose, and "vincere" is to win. "Natus" is the perfect form (had born). "sed" is the conjunction for "but".

Natus perdere sed vivo vincere.
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Eos
 
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Reply Sat 7 Aug, 2004 10:01 am
vincere is 'to win'
vinci is 'to be conquered/beaten'

It's true, you could use perdere instead of vinci, but perdere also means 'to ruin/kill/destroy/waste/squander'.
So it depends in what sense you mean 'to lose'.

and you can throw that 'sed' in there if you like, but the two parts stand in contrast to each other even without it.
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hitbypitch
 
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Reply Sat 7 Aug, 2004 10:18 pm
thanks guys.
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